So why xenolpod isn lt nerffed yet? Its the mais base of all defenses on raids and wars. And it is a beast of a tank.
The only nerf Xnolphod and mana batteries in general would need is to not make them gain mana from their own special skills.
I already have a purple team that is death in 6 tiles. Panther wouldnât even get into it (and the base version I have didnât either)
Her costume is brilliant no doubt but Iâve come across her a couple of times in raid defences and just not seeing it. Sheâs not tough enough.
And if you lose a raid with her in the D well youâd have lost it anyways so I donât really see why she needs a nerf.
Very rare Offence heroes can be godlike for all I care. Leave this be.
xnolphod doesnât need nerfs
he fully depends on the rest of his team and how good they are
telluria in her prime can cripple the entire team alone. the main reason she was a bit too strong is because there werenât good red heroes at that time. now even telluria in her prime isnât even an issue with so many great reds around including 4* and great other colours who can deal with her and prime vela.
too bad SG isnât willing to buff them back again
People are so overreacting.
280% to all on fast was already available with C Master Lepus (yes, with the mana ailment drawback). Elemental defense down was already available in just 5.5 tiles with Anton (not counting mana troops).
You could already pair Anton with e.g. Onyx and Killhare and obliterate an entire team in 9 tiles.
C Guardian Panther makes it more efficient because you now have the elemental defense down to all and 280% to all combined into one. But it doesnât fundamentally add something that was previously impossible.
There are already mono purple attack teams consisting of Khonshu, C Kageburado, and others who will destroy your entire team in just 6 tiles. Donât believe me? Watch The most INTENSE team I have ever built!!!!âEmpires and Puzzles Books - YouTube.
So on offense, she is just a good hero. But she doesnât change the landscape.
On defense, lol, she is a joke. Low defense, and not the talents you want in a defensive hero. You want a strong defense? Go use the S5 heroes. Their passives and family bonus alone will make your opponent scream in frustration. Panther has no passives, and her family bonus is not only terrible but doesnât even work if you only have 1 hero.
Finally⌠have a look at the beta beat for the heroes that are upcoming. Youâll forget all about C Panther soon enough, just like everyoneâs already forgotten about previous so-called âoverpoweredâ heroes like Ludwig, C Finley, and others.
You mean overreacting like this?
To be perfectly clear, I donât want her to be nerfed. I just find hysterical that you claimed she was completely broken a week ago, but now that you pulled her, sheâs just ok on offense and âa jokeâ on defense.
I particularly love your complete 180 on the c Lepus comparison. 7 days ago, she made him look like a joke, now theyâre basically the same. Just perfect.
Come on, have some dignity please.
I really hope you pull c Alasie soon. Itâd end your obnoxious âNerf c Alasieâ crusade instantly.
Thanks for the stalking! I hope you wasted a lot of time.
Once I started considering the (complete lack of) passives/family bonus and Pantherâs actual usability. I realized sheâs really not OP. She wonât be in any defensive team, has no family or passive bonuses, and doesnât offer anything that existing heroes donât already. So sheâs not OP, despite seeming so right upon release.
BTW, I have C Alasie, the entire X-mas family, C Panther, and pretty much every other hero in the game. Unlike you however, I have an actual interest in balance. Hence why the X-mas heroes needed to be nerfed (the majority of top-100 defenses consisted of the same X-mas team) and why C Alasie needs a nerf (when top alliances use two copies of C Alasie in all 30 war teams, you know somethingâs broken). Keep pretending itâs for other reasons though⌠nice try.
What happens after 10 more godlike offense heroes are released?
20 more?
30 more?
Is that fun?
Shall we go for 3 tiles?
Nope, sorry to disappoint. It took about 2 seconds. When someone has a full blown argument about how incredibly OP a hero is, and says the exact opposite as soon as they pull said hero, it is a fairly striking and easy to remember.
Frauds tend to scream stalking when they get exposed. I donât know if you can relate, but sure, having a functioning memory is stalking if it makes you feel better.
I want to believe you. I truly do. But I canât. Sorry, I hope you understand. This whole âfrom utterly broken to joke of a hero because passives and family bonusâ story is a bit far-fetched.
And there you go again⌠Why did I have to mention c Alasie? Sorry everybody, thatâs on me. I shouldâve seen it coming.
Good bye nerf her!!!
SG has already set a horrible trend of nerfing heroesâŚ
Not a surprise, that more and more players now expect itâŚ
Hope SG would enjoy reading the thread⌠/s
Edit - Pit players against each other⌠this is the real P2P in this game
More like the real P2W
Next step, make a V.Fast hit-all 250% and some other stuff too, maybe cast fiend that slows mana by 30%
Then make a fast summoner that has Mad Hatter minions. Oh⌠uh⌠uh, âŚok!
instead make a QoH costume that summons cards to all allies. This will be so fun because heroes like Grimble will only kill one allyâs card, with 4 left to go.
Next make a fast hero that does 350% damage to all and some other stuff
Next make a Fast defense hero that has 1300 base def, 6 turns undispellable taunt and cast wonderful feast for 6 turns.
Next nerf that hero. Because metrics. And itâs defensive.
Next make a v.fast hero that does 330% damage all and reduces all enemy mana by 20%
Make sure to feverishly support all of that and never ask them to slow down.
Ffs then eveyone gets mad when nerfs happen⌠You all ask for em!! These nerf threads are getting ridiculous. I said it before and Iâll say it again I think everybody needs one good "Nerf " then theyâll stop making these threads and be in a better mood
this is the normal power level now
wait till you see the new styx heroes
the 2 already released are more powerful at charge 2 and no one bats an eye because they are too uncommon. should they be nerfed too along with the other styx? No
we need heroes like quintus to be buffed instead.
if players who keep asking for nerfs switch that effort for buffs, weâd probably have a better game
Few years ago when I joined, Iâd have found this laughable⌠(not you⌠just the fact that SG might do such things)
Now - My god⌠feels like you must be working with SG
All of them now seem very plausible to meâŚ
Haha!
Decisions decisions
Nerf 2? Or buff 300?
The latter will never happen becauseâŚ
that would eat into creep profits.
@gingerhuny ;p
Itâs definitely comedy
And these days⌠it writes itself!
nerf 2? really? have you seen the nerf topics? any hero who shines or is common on defences gets a thread when they donât need nerfs at all
xnolphod, ludwig, alfrike, goseck, panther c, haluda⌠and thatâs purple only, other colours have similar things
and alot of them settle down after players releasing they arenât as powerful, move on or something else comes up.
Buff list wonât be much if simple things are applied.
âbuff 300â is an exaggeration but can be easily done with simple number adjustments in stats or special skill or even speed. it is not as difficult as it seems and with much better overall impact on the game
In 2 more years it will be nerf 10 or buff 1,000
Do you know what the solution will be?
Put a costume on top of the costume
But supporting a responsible pace is preposterous.
These are offense heroes! Let them beâŚ
GodlikeâŚ
it wonât if we as players push for buffs and proper balance for excessively weak heroes. i see more focus on nerfs over buffs
atomos, kong, inari, Thoth-amun and few others all got good buffs and they were one of the common heroes to be buffed. it was long time ago and believe we can get more again
they went from garbage to usable. we can push for more relevant buffs. now quintus is more brought up and believe he will get something. at least a speed boost. who knows
nerfs destroy heroes very early (krampus c, telluria, vela⌠etc)
- A large number of people found Vela more useful
- After saturating the game more than any other hero, everâŚ! Telluria remained in the leaderboards throughout 2020 after her release in April
- Krampus did not need a costume to begin withâŚ
Good luck asking for buffs!
Someone will be very insulted, and make endless campaigns to fight any buffs.
Meanwhile⌠the creep train doesnât need (financial) competition from free buffing of old food for SE
This isnât my position
Itâs my observationâŚ