What? People wouldn’t bring yellow against C-G. Panther. They’d bring yellow for Xnostrils. CG Panther is just a double whammy for a yellow attack team.
It’s not about the position of C-G. Panther in particular, it’s about her position when paired with other heroes with similar abilities. The debuff she puts on would overwrite El Nad’s debuff (order of operations- in this case, order in which the AI fires the special). Which happens to also prevent buffs but in addition to preventing buffs she causes damage to any hero a buff would be attempted on, making it a full waste.
Telly, Vela huh? You placed them next to each other because Telly was an OP tank and Vela was an OP right Flank. You didn’t put Telly in a wing position and then Vela next to her. Or Telly in the flank and Vela in the Wing. You placed them that way because you had GM on the left flank.
Your comment makes me think you don’t fully read the hero cards to understand them and how to create synergies between heroes. Because there are plenty of variables. Such as Wizard classes needing buffs on the enemies to trigger the extra 15% damage and equalizer removing buffs, therefore quite a reduction in those wizard class procs.
You completely glossed over my assessment of your team and went right to pointless rambling about why you don’t want G. Panther adjusted. Don’t try to make a point if you really don’t want to discuss it.
as of this writing, my current raid defense, which features C. Guardian Panther on the left wing of a double formation, has won 9 defenses in a row, continuing the 5-0 streak that started overnight last night.
It’s not I don’t regard offense. It’s because offense requires some luck. No matter how OP a hero is, you can’t guarantee you’ll get 7-tiles and ensuring you’ll get it in time before the opponent flanks/wing fires.
When you do get 7-tiles, there are already teams that can kill 3 or more opponents. With a combination of def down, elemental, etc.
I stated that if Panther costume has dispel, then warrants a nerf. But she doesn’t. So a simple taunt hero, dodge, reflect, damage mitigation, etc will block your skills.
She does hit slightly more but more heroes have beefier def and hp too! Also, her att rating is lower than some hit-all heroes.
Anyway, I already spent too much time on this thread. Doesn’t bother me at all, as I dont use purple on today’s war anyway.
Yep. She’s escaped into the wild from the SG DNA research lab ( oh sorry that was Jurassic Park)
I’m still holding on from a full opinion as I’m yet to come across her.
At this stage I don’t think she has fundamentally impacted the game making it undeniably harder for those who did not get her, or making it necessary to have certain heroes as a result of her being in the game. ( These are the main parameters for me for potential nerf)
Yes she will make some raids easier for people who get her, but we don’t see many yellow tanks now anyway.
Yes people who have her will score higher on titans.
Yes she may become a component of needed teams to get into top 1% for yellow mythic. But there are already some other heroes that are a strong component for top mythic titan scores anyway.
he fully depends on the rest of his team and how good they are
telluria in her prime can cripple the entire team alone. the main reason she was a bit too strong is because there weren’t good red heroes at that time. now even telluria in her prime isn’t even an issue with so many great reds around including 4* and great other colours who can deal with her and prime vela.
280% to all on fast was already available with C Master Lepus (yes, with the mana ailment drawback). Elemental defense down was already available in just 5.5 tiles with Anton (not counting mana troops).
You could already pair Anton with e.g. Onyx and Killhare and obliterate an entire team in 9 tiles.
C Guardian Panther makes it more efficient because you now have the elemental defense down to all and 280% to all combined into one. But it doesn’t fundamentally add something that was previously impossible.
So on offense, she is just a good hero. But she doesn’t change the landscape.
On defense, lol, she is a joke. Low defense, and not the talents you want in a defensive hero. You want a strong defense? Go use the S5 heroes. Their passives and family bonus alone will make your opponent scream in frustration. Panther has no passives, and her family bonus is not only terrible but doesn’t even work if you only have 1 hero.
Finally… have a look at the beta beat for the heroes that are upcoming. You’ll forget all about C Panther soon enough, just like everyone’s already forgotten about previous so-called “overpowered” heroes like Ludwig, C Finley, and others.
To be perfectly clear, I don’t want her to be nerfed. I just find hysterical that you claimed she was completely broken a week ago, but now that you pulled her, she’s just ok on offense and “a joke” on defense.
I particularly love your complete 180 on the c Lepus comparison. 7 days ago, she made him look like a joke, now they’re basically the same. Just perfect.
Come on, have some dignity please.
I really hope you pull c Alasie soon. It’d end your obnoxious “Nerf c Alasie” crusade instantly.
Thanks for the stalking! I hope you wasted a lot of time.
Once I started considering the (complete lack of) passives/family bonus and Panther’s actual usability. I realized she’s really not OP. She won’t be in any defensive team, has no family or passive bonuses, and doesn’t offer anything that existing heroes don’t already. So she’s not OP, despite seeming so right upon release.
BTW, I have C Alasie, the entire X-mas family, C Panther, and pretty much every other hero in the game. Unlike you however, I have an actual interest in balance. Hence why the X-mas heroes needed to be nerfed (the majority of top-100 defenses consisted of the same X-mas team) and why C Alasie needs a nerf (when top alliances use two copies of C Alasie in all 30 war teams, you know something’s broken). Keep pretending it’s for other reasons though… nice try.