Passing on the epic offer, I think

So you are saying no F2P player had those 3 heroes?

The player who beat me the last Fabled Epic did so with Li Xiu, Chao, Wu Kong. There were players in the top 10 with Grimm, Kiril, Sonya. What’s your excuse for these players?

Andrei, a known F2P player won Epic in Pirates. What’s your excuse for that?

And what about Rare events? What’s your excuse for every single player in Rare events?

The way you speak makes me think your issue with this game and events is more of a personal problem.

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I dont agree. Do i wish f2p and c2p had a little better chance at competing with p2w? sure. Do i feel like this game is 100% p2w? no. F2p and C2p can hit top scores on titans, can climb ranks in raids, and can develop their roster(much slower pace but still).

There are competitive alliances that have f2p and c2p players. Just have find players in those categories that are active enough and strategic enough with their resources to relatively keep up with their teammates. F2p and c2p playere can still fill 2 raid chests, 2 monster chests per day, fill titan chest per week, and 1 war chest per month. They can still accumulate in game currencies(atlantis tokens and gems) to use for summons in events, atlantis, and elemental summons. They can run multiple tc 20s to increase chances at 5*. They can feed troops wisely(feed 4* instead of 3* or 2*). They can complete rare quests and events for mats.

To say the game is 100% p2w would mean that f2p or c2p couldnt compete with p2w in any area of the game…and that’s simply not true

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I try to think of ways to improve the game for f2p and c2p daily. But that doesn’t mean i feel the game is p2w.

I just feel like there are a lot of unhappy f2p players and c2p players and they make up a large portion of our player base and they need to be kept in mind when making new changes to the game, and sometimes need changes to the game that do favor them a little because a lot of changes do favor spenders.

Spenders get a lot of bones thrown their way with new changes while f2p/c2p get thrown crumbs. Would be nice to see a bone get thrown their way from time to time

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From what I’ve read this is a bunch of nonsense

I need proof

Come back with an actual argument that’s better then calling me a liar and saying “fake news”. If you don’t have one, then stop arguing.

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I can’t agree more.
In last event … I couldn’t beat #2 in Legend.
I used to be F2Pplayer but now C2P cause I found my self after months since July 2017 with out any 5☆ heroes!
Need to buy vip just for the daily gems.
To be able to pull in Hallowen, Its my last chance giving to this game. If my RNG still sucks then I will just quit.

you dont need 5* to complete events or do well in any part of this game in my opinion. The first time I cracked the top 100 i had no 5*. When i was topping the ranks in my alliance in cups and titans and completing every event tier and quest, i had no 5*. Focus on making the best of what you have, the stuff you want will come eventually. Don’t let RNG be the reason you quit, if you don’t like the RNG in summons then don’t roll the dice unless you can do it for free

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I am here for long time, long enough to know tgat my x2 TC20 are working aginest me! I am Not even close to friends who half my time in EP.
This is just not feels good.
I want to have new heroes in my roster. Imagin having x3 Boril maxed cause you don’t have choices … in over a year!
And tell me that you can beat an event with green/yellow or Blue reflection when you don’t have the correct heroes!
I know you are F2P … but I think if your not a Vetren player here before me, then your RNG is way better than me.

lol I’m not f2p. But i was in the beginning and I definitely understand where you’re coming from. Are you using gems for elemental summons? Have you completed all the atlantis provinces on normal?

my E&P anniversary was last month in case you were wondering how long I’ve played

What exactly is your argument?

That this game isn’t pay2win

I mean that’s a bit ironic since you’re a perfect example of pay2win, how many hours a day do you spend on the game?

His argument is that F2P players can indeed compete with P2W players under certain circumstances. (Those circumstances being that the F2P players who want to attempt to do so must save up their resources over a long period of time to take a crack at it.)

He provided multiple examples of exactly that happening, and you rejected them for no good reason. I hope he doesn’t give you any further responses, because you don’t deserve them.

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Where’s the proof

20 characters

The player who beat me the last Fabled Epic did so with Li Xiu, Chao, Wu Kong. There were players in the top 10 with Grimm, Kiril, Sonya. What’s your excuse for these players?

Andrei, a known F2P player won Epic in Pirates. What’s your excuse for that?

And what about Rare events? What’s your excuse for every single player in Rare events?

I mean, are you looking for screen shots?

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Yes that’s what I’m looking for

That is not what I said. Not even close. Read and see what this argument is about.

OK, got it. You want screen shots of something that happened months ago, which nobody in their right minds would ever have taken screen shots of in the first place, let alone saved until now. Perfectly reasonable.

And what about Rare events? What’s your excuse for every single player in Rare events?

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LOL. Bud, you poor bastard. Did you ever in a million years think your post would garner this kind of insanity?

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Sorry, no screen shots. Either take my word for it, or don’t. Upto you. These are all known things by anyone who pays attention to the top 10 in events.

And if you knew even the slightest things about competing in events you would know it’s very possible. I have videos showing that. But I have absolutely 0 incentive to share them with you.

I love how you are skirting any talk of rare events

I’m done with this conversation as it’s quite clear you have no more arguments except mindlessly asking for proof that ofcourse I don’t have.

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Not but it’s pretty funny

@Denys is just ticked because he wants to win without putting in the time and practice to improve his skills. It’s less effort to complain than to learn. Sour grapes

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