I’m not sure when you think these changes happened, but I’ve been keeping track of every single chest opened since October. I’ll post all my data in the near future, but I’ve actually had better drops since the raid tier update. I’ve switched to skipping only raid chest timers and filling platinums. Once you max food storages the raid chests always feel rewarding bc you strart to get up to 150k food in platinum (thanks for that tip @Revelate).
Unfortunately, filling this many raid chests requires cup dropping which is tedious and just bad design. As a general note, this game has kept my interest for months so I think the reward structure is set up pretty well.
Here you go, comparing chest drops pre and post raid tier update:
I still need to double check everything, because frankly I never planned on recording almost 1000 chests so my data input formatting is absolutely terrible. Obviously thousands of data points would be needed to be sure if there are any differences, but a few observations:
Overall total ascension material rate seems to be about the same.
Comparing monster chests only, it is possible odds may have been changed for ascension items. I think this is more explainable by me just having extraordinary luck in 4* items in the past and/or bad luck recently.
Epic troop chances have likely been increased. Monster chests show an improvement, and raid chests do as well (at least in platinum).
Epic hero tokens show an improvement, but it mostly comes from the high amount from rare monster/elemental chests. Could be explained by luck in the small amount of those I’ve opened. The rare chests really throw the overall data off because they have such a low sample size but a comparatively huge probability for a good item.
Rare chest frequency seems to be the same (~1/30).
Skipping chest timers still seems to be a great use of gems, especially if you “game the system” by cup dropping and easily filling ~3 platinum chests per day since they now seem to be clearly better than monster chests.
Me posting this will probably result in nerfs now that everyone knows they should be cup dropping and filling platinum chests.
In conclusion, the only thing certain in randomness is the ability for it to make gamers (aka gamblers in mobile games tbh) angry .
For me ascension items come in a feast or famine method. A week or so ago opened a Nature chest and got 2 farmable ascension items (Battle Manual and Chainmail) normal summons and basically nothing to write home about. Then a few days ago a raid chest at platinum and a B rating on a 7* titan gave me fine gloves and a hidden blade. So the odds are there, it’s just a bit steep, like at the casino lol
Edit: Alliance member also got a hidden blade even though we lost a war
Zero2hero - I hear ya!! thanks … and yes. “Right now” indeed haha.
I saw it.
I laughed.
Yeah probably not great. But at least the mods embrace their humanity I guess? I dunno. I’m trying to make lemonade here!!
On the topic of crappy chest rewards… because relevancy…
Let me axe you a question:
what do you think the rate should be?
what do you think the rate actually is?
do you think there should be other sources for ascension materials other than those that currently exist? If so, what sources would you like added, and at what frequency?
Don’t care about ascension items that are meant to be rare. I do care that my last raid/hero chest was better than the previous. This one had TWO gems and a string with the food and iron. Lovin life in gold tier.
I think the loot is hit or miss. I’ve come to accept they aren’t the best items but I have been getting a good amount of ascension items. Believe it or not I’ve been getting a lot of ascension items from the daily video you can watch. Im constantly using gems to keep the chests going as Im trying to get everything to level 20 and the added ham and iron have been what Ive been after.
“rewards” are just ridiculous nowdays. Getting only 1 gem and usual trash only from chests and titan loot is not better as well. Yesterday I got A+ rating on a 7* titan (that means tier 9 loot), and got 3 gems and nothing else worth mentioning, no token, no AM (not even farmable), no flask, nothing. My alliance mate, who got a B grade on the same titan got better loot than me with A+, SG are you freakin’ serious?
@Duaneski… To answer all your questions I’d probably have to write a short book.
But really, think about it. We have alliance wars with so many heroes neaded x30. How are we expected to level these guys up when just trying to level 1x 5* team would take what seems like an eternity.
Elemental chests come once every blood moon, there is no excuse for it not to provide something definitely of value.
Killing 5xTitans in a row, no excuse for receiving feathers & rocks.
War victories, c’mon… it’s a victory for goodness sake, make the reward deserving of one.
I see the monster, raid chests become available & I think, why bother, it’s only trash anyway. AW kicks in, who cares if we win or lose.
Once in a millennia I’ll get a telescope & I’m supposed to get excited. I need 6 of the flippin things & guess what? my other blue hero, he wants 6 of them as well. My kids would have finished university before I level them up.
Now let’s move on to the other 25 heroes needed for alliance Wars, now can you see where this is going. Getting the odd ascenions are no longer thrilling cause so many of them are needed.
Ppl post a chest return & then say look what I got, but not seeing the bigger picture,
10’s of thousands of your fellow players got garbage, You need too many of them & at the going rate, it will take forever.
Now you install the game & play, but you don’t expect to be playing for the next decade.
I hear you. But how would you feel, if you had all 5* in a month, and all your enemies had it too? If you had all items? Would you play that game any longer? Think about that.
As for AW. Train 3* heroes for now, there’s no shortage of ascension items. Also, they’ll help you in beginner events.
It is litterally impossible to not get any ascension items from any titan kill.
And your one A+ “bad loot” compared to your cherry picked alliance mate that got a B “better loot”, means exactly nothing. Maybe the other B-graders got worse loot than you.
No one’s asking to ascend in just one month. That’s the opposite end of the stick.
A better balance is required so ppl aren’t doing their heads in just to progress.
For me, I’ve played for nearly half a year & can’t ascend one 5* hero, how many years is reasonable to develope 5 of them.
Means exactly nothing??? No my friend this means that the whole grading system can be thrown out of the window, because these grades mean nothing. If a B grade can get way better stuff than an A+ it means that it is fully random, so the whole grading is no more than some capital letters. An A+ should get the best loot, because he/she made the biggest effort to kill the titan, so don’t tell me you wouldn’t be pissed off if you would get trash with A+ while a B gets epic tokens and AMs. Yes, i picked this example, because it represents the problem. If the possibility exist that a B grade can get way better stuff than an A+, that means the grading doesn’t mean anything. Ok that wouldn’t be a problem, just tell us that if the titan dies everyone gets random loot, that would be fair, they should not feed us lies about the loot getting better with the grades. I’m sorry that I did not screenshot that “loot”, i was furious getting nothing again with an A+ grade, this was not the first case.
You think after half a year of game play, logging in 2 to 3 times a day, attacking every single Titan, Paricipating in every event quest, partaking in every Alliance War, opening what seems like a million chests is not being patient enough?
How many years is patient enough for you.
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thanks … and yes. “Right now” indeed haha.