Open letter to SG: If you want my $$

Your opinion on whether I’m a veteran is irrelevant. The point is that when a player reaches a full roster there is less value is spending on summons. That’s mathematically provable.

I don’t understand your response at all. My post was intended to draw our recommendations for making the game more interesting for people who have played a long time. All you want to do, apparently, is judge other players. :lol: whatever.

Second, I know SG doesn’t always care but if here’s enough support of the perspective I shared, then they might.

I was complimentary to SG in my post. They’ve created a great game. I wasn’t complaining. I was simply offering a perspective for them to consider. If I get bored of the game and quit, lll find something else to do with that time. Not a huge deal.

Loosen up, friend. Don’t take this stuff so seriously.

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For me it does. You will have to give credit where credit is due. Those who have played approximately a year ahead of us are the ones deserving to be called veterans. They are the pioneers. Some of them already quit. Others still persists and continues to be the guiding light in the game, in the community and in the forum. They have contributed so much that we have still a long way to go to be at their level.

I find this funny. If you have a full roster of heroes already, then why in the world would you summon still? Even a kid knows not to fill up the glass with water when it is already full. And you don’t need mathematics to prove that.

No you are not. Based on your first post, it is quite selfish in fact:

No I am not. Why would I judge you? I have just reacted on your post.

And based on your original post, it is like you are a child throwing tantrums if you dont get what you want. Yeah, right. Maybe it rubbed me on the wrong side when you explicitly requested for yourself alone to pick which featured nero in Atlantis to obtain.

At any rate, good luck to your request.

It is also a case of diminishing returns for SG. Do they focus on the veteran players who already have the majority of what is available in the game and want to target their further expenditures on what they are missing (thus inevitably reducing what they spend) or do they target the new players who are missing the majority of what is available in the game and will inevitably spend more than the veterans to get it?

As for “veteran” that is all relative. I am a veteran compared to the players who have been playing less than a year but I certainly don’t consider myself such. I still have things to learn about the game.

On a business perspective, they would be inclined to cater those belonging to the newer players than those who have played for at least 2 years. Veteran players may even hesitate quiting as they have put up too much time, effort and resources in the game that it’s an investment already. They are also tied to the friends, new and old, from their alliance and others. And even if they quit, some returned.

As to your categorization of veteran players, I do respect that. My idea is already posted above. And learning is a continuous process BTW. It doean’t stop.

You make no sense. It’s not worth engaging you any longer. You’re just interested in arguing when there is no debate to had.

Pointless. Goodbye.

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The game is forty months old. If your understanding of a veteran player is someone who has played for at least ninety percent of the game’s lifetime, then you will not find anyone else on the forum that agrees with your opinion, and you will find it difficult to engage in meaningful conversation on that point.

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This game somewhat echoes real life.

You work your ar$e off for 40 years and you are paying a lot into the tax system, the property market and the economy as a whole. By the time we have reached retirement age we should own our house and be content in it, our incomes will severally reduce and suddenly I’m not pumping the cash in like I was.

So you should get respect for all you’ve done but it the new generation that will be pumping in the cash now…I’ve done all that, it’s not my responsibility anymore.

Much like this. If you are 3 years in you should by now have all you need. Spending will naturally decrease and SGG will start to pay less attention to you. There’s a sparkly new generation playing now and that’s where the cash is.

So Vets will get some new stuff to build but basically you job is to sit in your rocking chair and tell the newbs they don’t know how good they’ve got it etc etc etc

That’s right. We had to trudge 20 miles uphill, both ways, just to summon a Thoth-Amun. Kids today just don’t know how good they have it. HEY you kids, get off my lawn (with apologies to @PapaHeavy) !

But seriously, once you reach the point of diminishing returns you are really at the endgame of E&P. Then you either just relax and enjoy the endless cycle of raiding and wars and titans or you move on to something else.

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Dear SG,

Stop being bad human beings and do the right thing by the human people afflicted by your casino.

Sincerely,
Duaneski.

P.s. can you imagine how much restraint it took me to write that so cordially?! :rofl:

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Agreed. I wish they’d listen and do something to assist players who wish to progress and would spend …more…money if the chances of actually getting something I want or would like was more likely then the summer here in England being hot!

I’ve given summoning on basically everything except Valhalla. I’m fed up of doing an event 10 pull to not get a single event hero…or at best a 3 star…which is always a dupe.

I dint want to pay for my 5th skittkeskull, boldtusk, Grimm etc etc in a supposed event summons.

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SG knows every player has an “end of gameplay” expiration date. A date that means the desire to continue building heroes, chase new heroes, etc, comes to an end. With that said, SG has little interest in addressing concerns of long time players whose spending habits diminish.

They are not bad human beings, they are running a multi million dollar business. And, to be honest, I’d say they have been quite successful.

But isn’t that exactly what has been done with the hero academy? The ha is providing a new chance of 5% for advanced players to swap their dupes with non S1 5* ( without Valhalla).

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the odds and I hate summoning on Atlantis because all I pulled yet are Tarkak, Atomos an Ariel ( finally on last Atlantis) and I really put a lot of bucks in it.

However, IMHO the reworked AL and the new HA are a good compromise for advanced players like us to have better chances for other heroes and more mats and for SG to keep their cash cow alive.

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I could offer several suggestions of improvements that would make me more likely to give SG some of my money (but naturally, they will be ignored, as ultimately they only care about big spenders, so I would be wasting my time).

Just chiming in to say that I don’t think player level is directly proportionate to experience. A player who constantly farms high level provinces is going to level up a lot faster than someone who just autoplays S1:8-7 most of the time.

I mean, I guess you’re more “experienced” if you do more higher level quests…? But my main can autoplay so far up to province 22 in S2 and province 6 in S3, both of which give significantly more XP than S1:8-7. Not to mention that even some of the easiest quests give more XP than the lower S1 provinces. Doesn’t really require much actual player skill in order to level up faster.

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I’ve been playing for 1.5 years, my luck is really bad.
i’m pretty sure i should just kill myself since i won’t ever improve.

Yes, and no. HA is SG’s attempt to address the issue, but it’s not a good one because the odds of getting a non-dupe are tiny…5% to get any HoTM, but if you have half, let’s say, then the odds of getting a non-dupe are 2.5%. What makes it worse is the wait (one week) to get the chance. That means you will get one new HOTM per year if you run it all year. That’s just not interesting to me.

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Iam not really sure what you are expecting, but if you already have all S1 heroes and the half of all S2, Event and HOTMs, what do you want more?

I have around 25x 5* ( without dupes), 15 of them maxxed and I can do everything I want in this game. I can fight every defense, play all events and reach 1% tier in tournaments week by week.
Of course I can not be part in of of the top20 alliances, but I usually stick on a budget of 20€ per month and I know from some of the big fishes how many money they already spent. Honestly, I would have chosen the car instead. :rofl:

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They’re casino operators masquerading as video game producers selling an addictive product with zero remorse.

Have they been successful, yes. Absolutely. THAT doesn’t make them not bad.

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Wow! Not going to touch that one.

One of my (now deceased) grandfathers made a very good living for himself as a salesman. He was a very good salesman. So good that he sold a bunch of stuff to a bunch of people, used the money to start his own sales business, then sold that business to a bigger sales business for a metric crapton of money, then retired.

I never got to know the man very well myself, he was a distant type, not really the kind of guy who would say “oh hey, look, it’s my grandson! Come and give grandpa a big hug!” More the type to sit on the couch watching football, smoking cigars and drinking scotch, shake my hand and say “how you doin’, kid?” then send me off to hang out in the kiddie room with my bratty cousins so that he could engage in “grown up talk”.

Later on, after his passing, my dad and I were talking. I mentioned how difficult it was for me to “get ahead” in today’s world. Work for a company for years and you’re lucky if they give you a 2% raise here and there, etc. He said,

“Have you ever considered going into sales? That’s what my dad did, and he was very successful.”

Thought about it? Sure. But what would I sell?

“Anything! It doesn’t matter. My dad could sell oceanfront property in Arizona.”

But there is no oceanfront property in Arizona…

“Exactly. But that’s just how good a salesman he was. And he made a fortune doing it.”

So… what you’re saying is, that… I should lie to people for a living?

“Not saying you should, just throwing it out there as an option.”

I’m not sure I’d feel comfortable doing that. Aren’t there more honest ways to make a good living?

“Plenty of honest ways to make a living, yes. But you’ve said so yourself, the most successful people in your own company are the ones who have brownnosed their superiors and thrown their coworkers under the bus.”

Yes. I don’t like that. I don’t want to do that.

“Well, then… you know how the world works. You either work it to your advantage, or you don’t. Totally up to you.”

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