Onatel not working?

[Vito]

Are you using onatel ?? Because she understands that she is average mana load level, therefore, when I have been using her opposites they have enough mana

[Dragonst666]

In short once you fire play the board safe for 2 turns then target the hero’s under her spell, she’s like a delayed proteus with the advantage of getting charged by any colour tiles in last 2 turns, when used correctly she’s dynamite

[Dragonst666]

Yes I have her and I’ve been playing with her, she is average mana when collecting it using yellow tiles, but her siphon is not average mana it is purely based off the mana gained by those under her spell, so if Victor or gm are under it and on turn 3 you hit them with 6 tiles ie pop a gem/shard they would normally be fully charged but instead she nicks 75% of it so she gains quicker than average

[Vito]

At the moment, at least because of my experience, what I’m trying, or I’m not using it well or I do not understand it. Do you currently have it or were you using it in beta?

[Dragonst666]

Ok ppl are going to say but her special takes to long to get going to be effective, well personally Id say it requires a good strategy. I’m loving her, and ignoring her special for 2 turns and playing the board smart then going after those she’s hit is working great

[Dragonst666]

I’m using her now, not in beta… She needs more thinking than the average special but its worth the time

[DoctorStrange]

combo onatel with hansel or gretel and all your questions with onatel will be answered as u now have almost complete mana control of at least three heroes at all times. onatel gets up to 813 defense. sleep on her if you want too I will make people pay

[LuluA85]

I do understand that. I’m just not happy, that you still can get your mana full after she fires. I would like her be more like Hel. I have to try her out, I got lucky and got her from my first pull this year. Never happen before.

[Kerridoc]

She’s worse and better than Hel. She’s worse because (a) she doesn’t hit as hard, (b) she slows mana gain, but only stops it in the fourth and final turn, and (c) she’s average mana, not fast. She’s better than Hel because her skill powers her up, making her ready to fire again far more quickly and reliably than Hel.

[Vito]

At the moment, I do not like it, I was waiting for this hero but I do not know if to upload Vivica, rather than onatel

[Rigs]

Hel is average mana too tho so not better/worse in that regards unless you’re considering the mana gain for onatel an improvement over hel at average mana

[RokoTheFearless]

Great explanation! Thanks for the effort.

[Dragonst666]

Also not mentioned is the bonus heal when using her in a stack, 24% over 6 turns is nothing to be sniffed at

[llivetorace]

been using her on my raid team. She definitely doesn’t steal all the mana on the last turn of her buff

[zephyr1]

Just to make sure this isn’t a misunderstanding of the special, you mean she isn’t stealing all the mana generated during the 4th turn by the heroes with her status effect on them?

I just wanted to make sure you weren’t thinking she’d steal all of their mana, as opposed to all of the mana generated during that specific turn.

In other words, they could still have mana left. They just shouldn’t gain any new mana that turn, Onatel should gain all of it.

[llivetorace]

Absolutely. I spent money on summons to get her. Wasted resources to grow her and I am not very happy about it. Quit playing another game because of things like this.

[llivetorace]

Never mind. Your wording is very misleading in the description. All mana in theory is generated unless under an alby buff . So say goodbye to my cash

[zephyr1]

@llivetorace

Never mind. Your wording is very misleading in the description. All mana in theory is generated unless under an alby buff . So say goodbye to my cash

Since your post says “your” and is tagged as a reply to me, I’ll just mention for clarity that I don’t work for SG — I’m just a fellow player trying to be helpful.

I can see where the wording could be quite confusing.

And there are certainly a number of places across the forum where others have identified poor wording choices in game messages. So it’s not like this is the first time the wording for something in the game has been confusing.

It sounds like this is working as intended for you — just not as how you expected. So I think the “bug” is an unclear description of the special, right?

And a good takeaway for SG from this and similar issues might be to somehow beta test the descriptions for new mechanics that might be unclear, perhaps by asking beta testers to explain their understanding of the wording to ensure it matches the intention, and asking for them to weigh in on whether it’s clear.

[Kerridoc]

It’s always worth reading the boards before leveling up a hero. Beta testers have useful feedback and experience. About Onatel I wrote two detailed posts on her special skill mechanics:

Onatel, best hero idea

Right, so to be clear: First round, 25% of all gained mana is instead siphoned off by Onatel. It’s like Alasie’s or Little john’s special, but with the slowed mana gain recovered by Onatel. Second round, 50% Third round, 75% Fourth and last round, 100%. I absolutely love the design and enjoyed playing with her in beta. It takes some care, but if you can trigger a cascade in the third or fourth rounds, you ideally end up with dead or badly wounded foes, still not powered up, and Onatel ready t…

Onatel not working?

Let me try a numeric example to show how Onatel,is supposed to work. All heroes need 100% mana to fire. On offense a hero gains mana per matched-color tile; the amount gained depends on the mana speed of the hero. An Average hero takes ten tiles to charge, so normally each tile adds 10% to the hero’s mana pool. Suppose your Grimm is at 40% mana, then gets hit by the opposing Onatel. You drop a blue match-3 next round. Normally you would get 3 * 10% = 30 points of mana, taking Grimm to 70%. But…

FWIW I love her design and think she will be a top yellow hero going forward. The leader of my alliance, 7DF, had her as War tank, and he seems to have done better with his defense than my standard Guinevere tank.