Number of Tiles (Regular vs Ghost Tiles) Required to Activate Mana (based on Mana Speed)

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#1

Question: What is the Number of Tiles (Regular vs Ghost Tiles) Required to Activate a Heroes Mana (based on the Heroes Mana Speed)

Definition of “Ghost Tiles”: Any number of tiles that do not hit an opponent (These fill mana in 1/2 of the regular time)

Mana Speed Tiles (Reg, Ghost)
Very Slow 14, 7
Slow 12, 6
Average 10, 5
Fast 8, 4
Very Fast 6.5, 3.25

Level at which there is a decrease in tiles using Mana Troops:

  • lvl 11 - very fast moves from 6.5 to 6
  • lvl 17 - slow moves from 12 to 11
  • lvl 23 - average moves from 10 to 9
  • lvl 29 - fast moves from 8 to 7

*Very Fast Ghost Tiles provided by @SWEG
*Mana Troop Levels provided by @Dante2377

-==RaZoR==-

The list above was assembled using several different sources. I did not find two sources that had the identical values or some didn’t include all the Mana Speeds. I feel this list has the most common values for each Mana Speed. It has since been updated to reflect other players knowledge of which are sited herein.


#2

I don’t believe this is correct but can’t quote anything difinitely. Very fast I believe is 7 regular or 3.5 (aka 4) ghosted.


#3

Very fast is 6.5 or 3.25, mana troop at level 11 makes it 6 and 3.


#4

Any update of more accurate numbers about this post Sir @Razor ? Cause it’s interresting me :smiley:


#5

Thanks for bringing this up. I just put together the mana page of the Fandom wiki and wasn’t sure how to discuss ghosting in technical terms - you gave me the info right here, though: ghosted tiles are worth precisely 2x mana. Ty for that.

The source I used initially to create the page was the 3rd 7DD chart on this thread. It shows Very Slow as requiring 13.5 tiles (effectively, 14 as you have stated here, then).

Interestingly, none of my primary sources of information have anything on this… neither the FAQ/Wiki, the Compendium, nor the data bible. I’m glad ya brought this up. :slight_smile:


#6

you should edit your original post so people aren’t confused about very fast (it is indeed 6.5 rounded up to 7 and 4 ghosted, barring any mana troops.

Also, the levels of mana troops at which shave off a tile are as follows:

mana troop lvl 11 - very fast moves from 6.5 to 6
mana troop lvl 17 - slow moves from 12 to 11
mana troop lvl 23 - average moves from 10 to 9
mana troop lvl 29 - fast moves from 8 to 7


#7

It is open to correction as stated up front @Dante2377. Can I use your source for a citation of certainty? If so would appreciate the link or what you may have. Thanks!


#8

I’d search the forums…Arien and Revelate back in the day had a bunch of posts that showed the math behind it…


#9

@H0fm4nN - I added the information provided by @SWEG and @Dante2377

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#10

@CheTranqui - cool on the Fandom Wiki - I checked it out!
Look’s like you caught the suggestion change! Best - RaZ


#11

You’re the best !

& thanks to everyone else who helped :slight_smile: