Novice who needs help!

Hi FishDreams!
It’s okay to look at my heroes later!
This is a problem just that you have multiple heroes to choose from, when you are bad at strategy, I thought to see how or what you think, especially when it comes to a team in war, against robberies or when you fight the maps!
Sometimes I notice that the weaker teams hit my heroes, I notice how different it depends on which gems or combo you get.
Apparently, start from left to right, though I’m not sure why!
So all the tips and advice I get may help me to get better!

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The AI fires your specials left to right when you are defending . So you should consider that when ordering your defense team.

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Yes, the AI (computer) fires left to right, so put your healers and debuffers on the left and Wu as far right as you can. :slight_smile:

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Hey @Gandalf1. I am sorry that it’s taken so long to get back to you on this.

I hope my answer is not too complicated, let’s see how we go.

I have a few observations before we get to the specific question that you ask about which heroes to set for defence and offense etc.

  1. Don’t spend any more money on Summons in the short term. You have way more heroes than you’ll ever be able to utilise for a long, long time. And you have excellent heroes! There is no need for more at this point.
  2. You have jumped over a step that I highly recommend, which is to level a solid base of 3* heroes in every colour. This helps with events, but also allows you to learn how to assemble your teams and strategise in raids etc. But you have so many 4* heroes, that I fear you won’t want to do that
  3. This is my number one piece of advice - concentrate on some very specific heroes to level! At the moment, you have partially levelled a lot of heroes. You will be better off if you narrow it down to around 10 heroes to work on

So, that being said, I think the following heroes are a good start for a defence team:
Kiril (or Sonya) / Caedmon / Boldtusk / Li Xiu / Tibertus

I prefer two healers (therefore Kiril), but you can’t have too many fast hitters (therefore Sonya) - it depends on your playing style. Don’t use Wu Kong in defence if you have an alternative choice, that’s why I am suggesting Li Xiu over Wu Tao.

By concentrating on getting these heroes to maximum, you not only have a decent base for defence, you have the beginnings of a versatile core of heroes for offense and titans.

In addition to these 5/6 defence heroes, there are some heroes that you must level as a priority - Wu Kong (king of Titans), Hansel, Grimm, Melendor. I would personally add Boril and Cyprian to that, but others will argue against them. They are wrong. Lol. The counterattack ability will allow you to complete events and difficult map levels. I don’t know anything about Guardian Jackal, but I would level him if I had him.

You have Colen pretty much levelled. I like him for offence as well. Others will argue against, but I think he is a strong part of your roster.

You’ll notice that I Haven’t mentioned your 5* heroes. They are amazing, but you seriously do not need them yet. Your 4* heroes will give you better service for a long, long time. Both Perseus and Drake Fong are incredible heroes and you will get good service from them as you play at higher levels. But they are not ‘must level’ at this point in your game.

I’m sorry this is such a long response. You have an incredible line up of heroes, so there is no easy way to respond to your question.

I will keep responding to this thread. I would LOVE more experienced players to jump in with their thoughts because you need to hear a diversity of opinions.

If I can leave you with one thought: concentrate on levelling just a few heroes, rather than all of them

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I can only highly agree with the advice @FishDreams has given here. :+1:

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You said what I was thinking. :+1:

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Hi FishDreams!
Thanks for your nice answer, how long it took has no problem, on the contrary, your answer will help me very well!
Actually, you should have got this information when I started with the game.

Yes, first I worked with my 3 * heroes, then with 4 * heroes, after challenge / adventure, then I realized that I must have at least one layer of 3 * heroes of each color, so 3 st 3 * heroes are on 3/50, working on the others!

As you can see, I have a lot of 4 * heroes, more than I should have, but I’m a little shy, so I do not want to lose anyone if I remove it and then need it later.
In the beginning and in alliances, it is said that one should only use the same color the corresponding hero is in color, so it became 2 st 1 * hero red, against red 3 * or 4 * heroes, but then it will be slow to build up the heroes in this way.
I made several mistakes, but often because I “thought” that I would love one or another.
Now I’m driving harder to my heroes so they get faster.

While you had a lot of other things to do, I have three new heroes that I received from the halloween and atlantis portal.

  1. Do I think of purple Ameonna, she’s a ghost, but what does she do for something?
  2. Red Natalya?
  3. Blue Triton?
  4. Blue Valeria?
    What do you think of these heroes?
    Should you get them up or wait until other heroes are maxed!

Several in my alliance are just discussing this with wukong, is he good or bad?
Same thing with “Mok_arr”. When looking at hero grading, he is a C hero, is he bad, good or what?

The ones you chose were not in my mind before and that’s why I was going to ask you about my heroes, you also see what level they are in!

Many in my alliance think that similar thoughts that you write are good, many chase 5 * heroes and someone notices that they have 5 * heroes so can make 3 * and 4 * heroes kill them right away!

So you may want to come up with more tips and advice, it makes it easier for us who are not as good!

Just so you understand that I use Google’s translation from Sweden to English!

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Dear friend, I would really recommend you to go and have a look over this thread.
It will let you know which hero is good for what use.

After reading this very will you will be able to chose wisely by your own.

You may also would like to visit thia website
Www.titanmafia.com
For more information about the heroes and what to fit in which poaition in your teams.
Have a great day.

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I think one rule of thumb FIRST:

Never throw away any 5*, rarely a 4*, and learn the game before you toss a 3*. 2* will become food as soon as you have a maxed 3* or higher team.

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Hi Amrolwan!
I understand that you think Anchor’s Complete Guide to Hero Grades and Enphero is great and as I would look at and then I know how to handle my heroes!
Or it may be that it did not help me with the 2 links, to understand about my heroes.
As I wrote, I’m novis, so I do not understand all the information, especially that does not help me what heroes I’m going to use (though I see how good my hero is) or what colors are good together and so on.
The answer from FishDreams is much easier to understand than seeing a spreadsheet with mass heroes.
Also saw that FishDreams put up my heroes, so heroes I have not thought of at all, Kiril, Sonya, Tiburtus and Colen, but just those of these / Caedmon / Boldtusk / Li Xiu I have not thought the same way.
I noticed this both here in forums and in alliances is that I and friends do not understand these links.
With FishDreams I can see it in an easier way, even Razor gives me good information and that’s such an information I and others need!
Many ask me about things. who had not found the guide so I put up a link in the chat, then questions asked what it meant and about the heroes, when I found enphero and put that link up I get a lot of questions I can not answer, so I put up here in forum things I do not understand, therefore I ask questions to talented people who want to help with “stupid questions”!
Can very well understand that savvy people think that there are stupid questions when there are good links to use.

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Hello Rook!
Yes, I found things just when I started playing, locking those heroes to keep them else, they will suddenly be just fish food!
We are apparently many who have “accidentally” fed away a hero that one would have left!
That’s why I have so many heroes, not to waste a hero that you need, such as a BANE well raised, just the disappearance.
These are the things that novices should have understood, but even good players did not know about locking heroes!
Why I opened this thread was with an opportunity so we can get tips and advice, instead of 30 writing yourself, it’s enough for someone who leaves the information!

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Here is a thread that may help with the immediate question

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Hi NPNKY!
I read your text, the problem is that I do not understand the whole text, but now that I have it, I’ll go through the text and try to understand.
With 3 cerebral hemorrhages or strokes, it may make it som problem, but I have come quite far anyway in the game, sometimes I feel like an elephant in a porcelain shop!

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If you have questions, feel free to ask, and I will try to explain better.

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Hi @Gandalf1 The Google Translate is working very well to translate Swedish to English! I hope it is doing a good job with my English to Swedish.

I’ll repeat what I said above - don’t summons any more heroes! You have such a good collection already that you don’t need more.

Your new heroes are amazing! I like all of them. To answer your question 1, I have Aemonna, but haven’t levelled her yet. She looks like she will be very helpful with raids (offfense) and maybe even someone who is good on defence if her special fires.

Triton is a great hero, I really like him. And you got a HOTM in Natalya, also a great hero. I like the look of Valeria, but I wasn’t lucky enough to get her.

The important note is that it doesn’t change the plan that I outlined in my first post. Build a good roster of around 10 heroes, before you move onto these ones. So, yes, leave them until you have maxed the others.

Regarding Wu Kong. He is arguably the best hero in the game, especially at the middle level. He will improve your hits on Titans. He will help with difficult map levels. He will help you complete rare quests and monthly events. Players have a love / hate relationship with him. But trust me. He is worth levelling. I recommend that you level Li Xiu and the Wu Kong for your yellow heroes.

I do not have an opinion on Mok Arr - but I’m glad that I did not get him. Because he looks like he is a very specialist hero.

I see that you have some problems reading the English Guides and Spreadsheets. I am always happy to answer questions if I can. I know that there are many others like me on the Forum, so please continue to ask anything you need to that will help.

I hope I have helped you.

@Gandalf1 About WuKong:

  • Must have for Titans
  • Useful on offensive teams (Raid and War)
  • But can be disastrous on Defense!

I use him on every Titan, even yellow ones. He does miss/make you miss roughly 1/3 of the time. (It is possible to miss more all at once, but over time, it will be about 1/3.)

When he hits, it’s glorious! Especially cascades.

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Hi FishDreams!
Unfortunately, English to Swedish is bad about google translate.

That I got 3 new heroes is your fault, your answer was so slow, so Atlantis wanted me to take some! lol!

Just as I said is that the spreadsheat is a little strange, you say you like Triton, though he is graded to B.
Natalya is also graded to B, this is what makes me not understand what rating applies to what?

When the team you set up: as defense: Kiril (or Sonya) / Caedmon / Boldtusk / Li Xiu / Tibertus, Kiril, I’m waiting for mantels, Sony is on level 4/16, Caedmon is only 3/31, Boldtusk is at 3/1 and Li Xiu is only 1/10.
If I had contact with you earlier in the forum, I would have chosen them first.
So besides Wukong, I will feed Li Xiu so she gets strong.
But of those strong heroes I would have been the best defense or who should be defense.
I read from someone in forum that one should not really think so much about defense because my team must also attack the enemy!

When it comes to Wu Kong, there are many who have different thoughts about whether he is good or bad, but I use Wukong against titans and in war, but you said he is good even against yellow titans, many say you should not have Wukong against yellow titanium!
It’s such information that makes me crazy.

In an alliance, they thought that if one puts one red at the front and has one blue on each side, you get an advantage for this, I did not understand this either!
In an alliance, they decided that in the war everyone would have the same color of thought, one thing that I did not understand!

One thing that many in my alliance are also thinking about, it’s just this that everyone wants 5 * heroes and yet when they are robbed, 3 * and 4 * heroes can drop our heroes.
Hence the matter of Mok-arr, where one member said Mok-arr injured his heroes.

Since just this to set the heroes from left to right, is it always so?
Will heals always sit to the left?

We had a red titan and I used 4 blue heroes together with Tiburtus, so I got a good score, but all the other gems yellow, green or red I’m told I’m missing a hero, but I get points from them in all cases.
Is it a good way to fight the titans, when I have Wukong with, I do not get as high points!
Now, the brain says I’ve written too much so I get a headache headache, it may also be because glaucoma in my eyes causes my headache, as the doctor said, who knows!
See ya!

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Lol. I apologise. I will respond quicker next time so that you do not get more heroes.

With the gradings on the spreadsheet, remember that it is the opinion of a small group of people. I think it is aimed at players who are at the higher levels of the game. I don’t agree with a lot of their ratings. Especially not for players at low to mid levels of the game. Use it as a guide only, not as a bible. Some of the heroes that are rated as ‘C’ are very common and popular even in the Platinum level. So at that level they should be rated as ‘B’ or even ‘A’. As you progress in the game, you will learn how to apply it to your heroes and your playing style. It is a very good resource and I use it all the time, but I do not treat it as the final say. I hope that makes sense after it has been translated by Google?

Yes, you need to be able to attack as well as defend. That is true. The heroes I suggested that you level should allow you to do both. But as you play the game more, you will need to level more heroes to give yourself more choices for attacking.

Wu Kong drives everyone crazy! But he is worth levelling. You will love him at times and you will hate him at times. But you will not regret levelling him in the long run.

Do not worry at the moment about understanding the different strategies of hero placement. It will become clearer as you advance in the game. I started typing to explain this, but I realised I would confuse you further. Do not be too concerned about this at your stage in the game.

I think I understand your point about 3* and 4* heroes. The point is that you are better off levelling your 4* and 3* heroes first, because they will help you more than 5* heroes that are not fully ascended.

Mok-arr does indeed injure his own team. He is a specialist hero that only helps when you partner him with certain other 5* heroes.

Yes. The Artificial Intelligence (AI) triggers left to right. So place your heroes that you want to fire first from the left. It is true that healers work well when placed on the left.

The technique that you are describing with using 4 blue heroes against a red titan is called “colour stacking”. It is a good way to fight titans if you can. Your scores will increase.

And yes, Wu Kong can sometimes give you very low scores. I just used him on a titan and got 45,000 points on one strike, and 10,000 on the next. It is worth using him though because the high scores outweigh the low ones.

I have tried to explain this in a way that Google translate should be able to handle. If anything is unclear, please keep asking and I will try to explain it in another way.

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I think it is important to mention that this applies to your defence team - that is when the AI fires your heroes specials from left to right.

This is a war strategy - the idea behind this is that the opponent will have to fight the same colour tank (the middle position of the defense team) many times and therefore will use up all their strong colour against the tank quickly, making it more difficult to beat the defense repeatedly.
So, if the tank is red, flanked by blue - you would need blue heroes to kill the tank, but would be giving mana to the heroes on the side of the tank… and you would use up your blue heroes in the alliance, making it difficult to hit the tank with later attacks.

I hope I was able to explain this in an understandable way.

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Hi Fishdreams!

Yes, I had received your answer earlier, so I’d let 3 new heroes go! I just happened to have 300 pieces of Atlantis coins! lol
I can not just save on that! haha!

Because I answered you so late, then “happened” I get a 4 * Yellow Chao, so sad or how? hehe

Because I’m so bad at the game, I thought that the spreadsheet was like a bible, so that the game had graded the heroes.
Above all, when people always told me to read spreadsheets and then how to tackle my heroes, who are good together, who to go to titans, in war, robbery and defense, or I do not understand anything at all, hence I put a lot of stupid questions.
There are as many suggestions and tips from many members, not just here from the forum but also from members of alliances!
So then I’m in the same place as before, I do not get much of this! ha ha

You wrote a team: Kiril (or Sonya) / Caedmon / Boldtusk / Li Xiu / Tibertus!
Kirill is at 3/60, waiting for a warm coat, Sonya is 4/16, Caedmon 3/31, Boldtusk 3/4, Li Xiu 1/10 and Tiburtus 4/70.
I have other heroes who are stronger such as Wukong 4/70, Colen 4/70, Then there are heroes that I feed up.

But as I said, I chase or feed those others even those you mentioned.
See ya

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