Ninja Heroes (mana tile charge question)

[Guvnor]

@fight_happy

I read somewhere that ninja heroes need 5 tiles to get to 1x mana. Can anyone confirm this?

@Guvnor

Mana Speed: “Charge”…?

The exact wording on the hero cards is:

• Special Skill has different effect if charged with 100% / 200% / 300% mana.

Cross-posting from the beta-beat thread for visibility:

@Guvnor

You’ll notice that all the new heroes do not have a traditional mana speed listed (e.g. Fast, slow average). Instead they have the phrase “Charge” listed.

A very unique feature to all these heroes is that the more times you have over-clocked the mana bar, the stronger the effects of the special skill becomes. What I mean by this is that each hero has 3 “tiers” to their special skill.

• If you cast with 100% mana, you get the first tier. OR
• You can wait & keep accumulating MORE mana… Then if you cast when the bar is filled 2x times (i.e. 200% mana), you get the second tier of effects; OR
• You can wait longer again… If you then cast when the mana bar has been filled 3x times (i.e. 300% mana), you get the third and final tier of effects.
• Hording more mana doesn’t give any new effect beyond the third tier.

Tiles to Charge Mana

TLDR: No mana troop will drop the tile requirements for the first charge but may be achievable for sequential charges.
It LOOKS to be about 4.8-4.9 tiles to charge each time.

Credit to @Rfm and @Epigenetic and some of the other Beta testers for finalising these numbers.

Troop	x1	x2	x3
Crit	5	10	15
Mana 5	5	10	14
Mana 11	5	9	14
Mana 17	5	9	14
Mana 23	5	9	14
Mana 29	5	9	13

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Defence they are treated the same way as all other heroes on defence in terms of the mana units per turn (passive) and per tile per cascade.

Can read more on it on this thread (bit to wade through but good info’s): New mana per turn calculation on defense? We investigate Vol 2

Useful explanation from Kerridoc (no numbers unfortunately)

@Kerridoc

That’s because defense heroes gain mana differently than the offense.

• on offense, a hero only gains mana by matching tiles (unless boosted with a gain-mana buff from, say, Alberich). You gain one tile’s worth of mana when the tile hits a foe, or two tile’s worth if it “ghosts” (doesn’t hit a foe). Certain troops or specials increase the amount of mana each tile is worth.
• on defense, every hero gains a tick of mana each turn. Any hero hit by a tile will gain a chunk of mana; the chunk size decreases the more tiles hit in a particular turn (so a huge cascade may not charge all foes’ mana). Again, mana-boost troops and specials may increase the mana gain.