🍵 New Riddles of Wonderland Challenge Event – FAQ, Discussion & Summoning Results

[vanZille]

Ha, beat you in epic by 1k and you beat me in rare by 1k interesting that the loot summary is the same but looks different and how many ranks difference 1k makes. Congrats!

[Richter]

Every once in awhile I contemplate making a run at top 10 in rare or epic tiers… then by the end of the event Im glad I didnt when is see the top scores.

Not sure anyone if any of them are willing, but Im curious to know how many WE flasks/energy refill were used.

[Sarah2]

Actually @Richter, have a look in this thread… Epic event scores – #1 Wonderland November 2019

[Richter]

I must be blind, thank you!

[Zteev]

Yes, I got that backwards. Thanks for the correction.

[Benn]

@zephyr1

The starting time for Challenge Events has shifted backwards one day, and the duration has been extended from 3.5 days to 5 days.

I’m having trouble remembering last month, but maybe it was this way and I was just doing a better job watching the timer in-game. But technically it was extended to 4.5 days, not 5, right? I had the five full days timeline in my head, and I was expecting to have some time this afternoon to see if I wanted to push my scores any further, so I was surprised when I logged in and had my stash of rewards waiting for me.

[zephyr1]

You’re right, it ended up being 4.5 days, not 5.

The original announcement had said 5:

@EmpiresPuzzles

Each Challenge Event lasts 5 days now, starting one day earlier (on Wednesdays).

[Hermann]

Congratulations @zephyr1.

i was way below such good results 631k in rare, 760k in epic, 920k in legendary.

i think (maybe hope would be the better word) i have heroes and ressources to do better in coming events but i must admit i’m not sure how to achieve it…

may i ask how you did it? can you provide some tipps?

Many reruns and worl energy use? many battle items used?
a kind of strategy?

i replayed a few stages to get better scores to at least obtain some flasks and troop coins… but i didn’t manage to go up to the tiers with ascension mats… and i don’t know how i should prepare or approach it next time…

Kind regards,

Hermann

[zephyr1]

@Hermann

may i ask how you did it? can you provide some tipps?

I followed this same approach again:

@zephyr1

Sure, this is probably nothing new, but here’s what I focus on:

• Well before the Challenge Event starts (like during Atlantis Rises), I restock my Battle Items, usually aiming to have at least 250 Arrows, Axes, Bombs, and Dragon Attacks on hand — that’s way more than I actually need, so it saves me any stress about running out
• I use mono teams, as they’re typically easier and faster — and speed is really a lot of what’s important for a decent score
• I typically run through each tier once for completion initially, starting with Rare, then Epic, then Legendary, and don’t use a lot of items on the first pass, unless I see a board where I know it’ll lead to an excellent score
• I focus on hitting power, and don’t bring much for healing, if anything. I posted my teams above here: New Pirates of Corellia Challenge Event – FAQ, Discussion & Summoning Results
• As mentioned above, I’m lazy about switching teams around, so I usually don’t bother
• After my first runs, I compare my scores with alliance mates who post theirs, or scores I see on the Forum, to see which Stages might benefit from reruns. If I don’t have scores to compare to, I look at my scores relative to each other, and identify anomalies, like a lower score on a Stage with the same number of Bosses as an earlier Stage.
• I rerun the Stages that have the most potential for improvement, usually only a couple times each. If I improve my score, even a small amount, I move on. If it seems like it’ll be really hard to improve my score, I also move on. During these reruns, I use Battle Items as needed, in cases where I think it’ll be worth the time savings, or preserve a Match Score from having a good cascade. If I use Battle Items and don’t improve my score, I move on.
• I don’t farm good boards or flee, I play through whatever I get every time; but I’m more generous with Battle Items if I think it’s a better run
• Over the course of the Event, I watch my rankings drop. Early in the Event, I aim higher than I plan to end up, since dropping is inevitable. As the Event goes on, I start aiming more moderately in the midst of where I want to end up.
• Each day, I look at my rankings for whatever tier looks riskiest for dropping out of the loot tier I want, and then I repeat the process from above for replaying some Stages. Usually I can bump up my ranking pretty substantially with just a Stage or two having a higher score. I try not to overplay, as it gets a lot harder to climb the ranks, and I don’t want to waste Battle Items or WE. I’m just looking to land safely in the tier I want. When things are looking decent, I farm Rare 3 on auto instead of replaying Stages.
• For Pirates, I initially only planned to rank higher for Rare and Epic; when I saw those were looking reasonably stable, I replayed some of Legendary to jump up from top 10k to top 1k. I wasn’t sure I’d be able to do that, but it actually didn’t end up taking a lot of effort or replays, and I ended up bumping up even higher to make sure I wouldn’t drop out.

I even used the same teams as last month, other than some Troop/Emblem progress:

@zephyr1

For Rare, I’m using this team now:

@zephyr1

For Epic. I’m using this team:

And for Legendary I used the same team as Epic, just with Azlar +0 swapped in for Colen.

[Hermann]

Hi @zephyr1,

thank you very much… so i’ll try a similar approach next time… thanks again…

Hermann

[tsoukalos]

relating to this:

Sneak Peek & Schedule Changes for Challenge Events & Atlantis Rises in Nov/Dec 2019

[Nov_Dec_Challenge_Event_Heroes] Prepare to face the updated Riddles of Wonderland (Nov) and Fables of Grimforest (Dec) Challenge Events! You can read more about the updated Challenge Events here. Schedule Changes Due to the simultaneous in-game events and public holidays, we will be temporarily adjusting the dates for Challenge Event & Atlantis Rises in November & December 2019. Please note that there are no changes to the duration of each event. You can find the up-to-date schedule below: …

anyone got info on the bal new heros for pixie, snow white & puss in boots?

[Guvnor]

This thread @tsoukalos

🧪 Early Information on Updated Fables of Grimforest Challenge Event [Part of The Beta Beat V24]

[mogulemon]

See how all wonderland family performs on raid defense here

Mogulemon EP : Against full set wonderland family with family bonus

[Argon]

Hmmm, not too scary with QoH and Hatter being bad on defense. I also watched full pirates team fight and they are definitely scarier together.

[Altius_Virgule]

Anyone know how to beat the final stage of the Epic level of this challenge? Why is the Rare and the Legendary levels so easy on these challenges but the Epic is nearly impossible to beat? I have tried it 10x now and can not come anywhere close to beating it. Even running mono or 4-1 I just can’t seem to do hardly any damage to Hatter/Alice/White Rabbit even enough to fire arrows, bombs, and axes at them to take them down. Someone suggested using 3* troops but that doesn’t seem to matter. Any ideas? It’s just so weird that it would be hard when Legendary is so easy.

[amrath]

Epic always seems to be more difficult than legendary.

[Saros]

@Altius_Virgule

Anyone know how to beat the final stage of the Epic level of this challenge? Why is the Rare and the Legendary levels so easy on these challenges but the Epic is nearly impossible to beat? I have tried it 10x now and can not come anywhere close to beating it. Even running mono or 4-1 I just can’t seem to do hardly any damage to Hatter/Alice/White Rabbit even enough to fire arrows, bombs, and axes at them to take them down. Someone suggested using 3* troops but that doesn’t seem to matter. Any ideas? It’s just so weird that it would be hard when Legendary is so easy.

Well, this is my fourth challenge event altogether, my third Rare win, my second Epic win and my first Legendary win. So from my observations with a very limited hero selection:

Emblems help a lot. My team for both Epic and Legendary was one and the same: cChao (17) - cBoldtusk (18) - Cyprian (18) - cKelile (14) - Sumle (17). Edit: I don’t have even a single 5* ascended, since I am vc2p and started in the end of October 2020. Except for Kelile, whose costume is far from maxed btw (only 2/2/4/2 % bonuses), all of the other heroes are maxed on the defense path. This really helps - heroes are much more resilient, thus this gives time to rearrange the board for the final fight.

With this team, Epic was much easier than Legendary, and I used bombs axes and dragon attacks. Kelile helped a lot with that burn damage, so did the Dragon attacks. But the real star of the event was Cyprian who inflicted tons of damage to the bosses. The important thing to note here is that he has to be timed precisely or rather, used in conjuction with a mana controller (like cChao) so that the Hatter doesn’t steal the Riposte buff (and accidentally Boldtusk’s attack boost).

I guess that with a 4-1 team that has a def down hero (be it elemental def down like Guardian Falcon or pure def down hero like Gormek or better, Wilbur) this fight would be much easier, with the correctly prepared board of course.

I had three 3-level 3* attack troops equipped on my red heroes, those indeed really helped. 2 level would probably also suffice since they have the same attack boost - 14%.

I actually saved some bombs on this fight, as well as a couple dragon attacks on the Legendary last fight, since with the help of cChao (and Time Stops on legendary) the bosses’ mana can be controlled, the fight prolonged enough so that more red tiles are eventually encountered for the win (and the burn damage adds slowly but surely).

So in conclusion: Emblems help a lot, no matter what heroes you use. But you still need to colorstack at least 3 strong of the chosen color. Just work on that board a lot before you engage the bosses.

[Altius_Virgule]

I was running mono purple, but next time I will try mono red and see if I do any better. Thanks! As for emblems, only my A-rated 5 stars get emblems, anything else is a waste, and already have way more of them than emblems to go around.

[Saros]

Purple lacks key heroes in the 4* slot which red and green has. Like elemental debuffer, which purple has only at the 5* slot. I still think that embleming 4* is worth it, unless you are desperate to go for top 100 global or some other such nonsense. You can emblem way more 4* than 5* with the same amount of emblems, and a mono emblemed team of five each color 4* with good abilities will win you any epic challenge with ease.

Edit: To put it simply, purple lacks firepower at the 4* slot. Yes, it has great healers like cRigard or cSabina, but actual snipers are not so good. I guess you could apply the double Cyprian riposte tactic, this could hurt the bosses enough that the bombing afterwards kills them all. You have to be careful with the Hatter though.

Edit: If you are still reluctant to emblem random 4*, you could emblem a team of five cRigard, they are a worthy addition to many 5* all-star teams.