New players of Empires and Puzzles, don’t spend any money

I can assure you that it’s not a “bitter” or “bad luck” discussion.
Just advising new members not to spend money on this game, because most of you will be disappointed, and it’s not worth it at all. Really… AT ALL.
Wait for more TRANSPARENCY from the devs of the game.

Invest your :moneybag: for pleasurable things. No one should pay to lose.


I have a wife.
I always pay to loose.

Your argument is invalid.


I have 3 wives and they all work for me.

YOUR argument is invalid :slight_smile:

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Oh I sense some buyer’s remorse here. I’m sorry that happened to you.

Read before you buy. Investigate the offers. Are they good enough for you? Do you understand them completely, including what you’re guaranteed to get and what you’re merely got a chance of getting? Do you understand the odds, as far as they’re published?

Invest your your :moneybag: for pleasurable things indeed. Consider your in-game purchase as money spent on entertainment. Consider your entertainment budget, and spend only what you’re willing to part with based on that budget. If you indeed think your purchase would be fun, for you. I nor @Morpheus can decide what’s enjoyable for you, that’s all your own personal prerogative.

Be aware that it’s very well possible to play this game for free. Things just take a whole lot longer that way. That’s not all bad, because this also spans the lifetime of the game for you. Remember training camps can drop 4 or even 5 star heroes if sufficiently upgraded, and ascension mats aren’t gated behind a paywall.

For me, I compare spending money on a game like this to buying a drink or a meal. You consume the drink/meal in an entertaining place, and all that’s left is the aftertaste and the filled stomach/quenched thirst. If that’s the height of your expectation, you’re less likely to experience buyer’s remorse.


May I change the title to “New players of Empires and Puzzles, don’t spend any money”? Seems that’s what you meant, and I pretty much agree with it.

No thank you. I am happy to spend my ~$15 a month for the entertainment value it brings.

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Everything you used for this game is a “waste”

No… Everything I spent for this game helped provide for another household somewhere. It not only helps them but gives me additional entertainment, whether it was the expected outcome or not.

That’s considered a win/win actually.


Weird win/masochistic win situation actually :slight_smile:

You may change the title. Of course. New players should visit the forums/Reddit before spending any penny

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Sorry, but after buying a meal you don’t leave the restaurant with an empty stomach (a handful of 3* heroes in this case)

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Although I was disappointed with some of my purchases in this game, I can’t agree with you.

First of all, false expectations lead to disappointments. So, think and read before you buy. Yes, it is a common place to complain about 10x draws for gems. Just be aware about it.

Secondly, VIP access with a second builder is a very nice feature to use, as well as flash offers with rare ascension items. Not all of them, but you can choose.

In addition to that you play this game for free, but developers work full time supporting and improving the game you enjoy. So, consider this a donation to express your attitude to the game and ability to say “Thank you” to developers and “keep up good work”. :wink:


You walk out of a concert or movie with nothing but memories and, hopefully, enjoyment. You walk out of a casino entertained but, likely, poorer. SG is providing entertainment. Those of us who are entertained are happy to send them money in return.

Spending gems gives random results. There are ways to spend them that give good return, or horrible returns.

In my experience:

Good odds:

  • continuing the last or next-to-last stage of a rare quest or final stage of intermediate or advanced challenge events, IF you had a great run but are still just a few hits from winning. For 75 gems, you’ll get rare ascension item(s).
  • accelerating Monster Wanted chest

Poor but acceptable odds:

  • event and elemental summons
  • troop summons (actually, odds are horrific, but this is literally the only way to get 4* troops)
  • Trainer Tools

Wasteful spending:

  • Ascension Packs and everything else in the shop
  • accelerating buildings
  • accelerating training

Zeline, Marjana & Hel don’t count…

I wish I could have them. #keepdreaming
I have hawkmoon, Sonya and Skittleskull :wink:

If you cant beat your last stage you have to play old story stages everytime. It is a bad way of this game to find an easy stage and playing continuously without getting bored. Other alternative is losing your energy :slight_smile:

If you want entertainment, you have to play this game as only a puzzle game. I paid for this game and had 4 star heroes, but losing to many weaker players with 1&2 star heroes because of puzzle

If your 4* are consistently losing to 1 or 2* heroes, that isn’t the fault of the puzzle. That’s you not understanding how to stack specials, set up combos on the board, ghost tiles to charge mana, and use items.


I can prepare a few videos for my gameplay but i am sure you will agree with me: the cause is only puzzle. I played many games like this and i am good at these games. And you can’t use items at PVP

Show me your defense team, and your attacking team

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