Alliance Wars Matchmaking (Discussion & Developer Response) MASTER

@petri, could you expand the criteria for the election of the participants in the wars a little?
You say that it is by the power of the heroes, the best hero of each team?
The best five?
All the heroes of each player?

By expanding our current war a little, total power of the defensive teams of our war (our alliance always has the best heroes in the defenses):
We: 74969 (27 members)
Our opponents: 92301 (30 members)

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Not balanced at all. We have 44k they have 10k more… which is a lot, given the low numbers. We each have 27 members, all of their’s are 2k and up power. Ours are mostly 1k. You cannot tell me that our ppl have even ONE hero that is equivalent to their steongest one hero. They looked at player number and called it fair. The rest of how they ‘balanced’ the matching is not reflected in matches that I have seen, or heard about.

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I sure hope it’s not only the top 5 Heros, because that does nothing to measure potential bench strength. It really needs to be top 30 if they are going to use that metric.

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Apparently it is only the best hero from each member that is taken into account.

Interesting. We never had such difference between the defense teams with the previous matching. I think that our defeat can be severe lol

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Hello, we compare the Top 30 strongest Heroes of each player, when the matchmaking occurs for the Alliance Wars now. Hope this helps to clarify the change!

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Hello Petri, you mean the top 30 heroes of all the alliance, or for each member ? I mean what happen if a member have 30 5* and the others only 2* :slight_smile:

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top 30 heroes of each player or top 30 of the whole aliance? Because some matches are still terrible.
The right thing would be top 30 of each player (900 heroes of each alliance)

Thanks for the clarification.

The 30 best heroes of the whole alliance or the 30 best heroes of each player of the alliance?

Each player. :slight_smile:

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But why we are facing still uneven number of players, we have also 26 vs 30. One of the notes of the update was number of players in the alliance. If is not like this than the hero rooster match will be not accurate.

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But if the balance of heros over the alliance isnt even, it will be worse than before?

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Thanks :smile:

Then it seems that they have a worse “bench”. Let’s see if we can give them a funny war.

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Another thing we found unclear is the junior players who can’t war yet. Are they included in the team match ups?

Your opponent have terrible benches I think. Maybe they have one or two good teams and rest of the heroes are garbage. You have to wait till the end to see what’s happening. What bothers me is the number of the players in the alliance wich supposed to be even after update. Like this the matching of hero rooster is not accurate at all. How they match the power of 26 players with 30?!?.Anyway when you face this kind of defenses, (1000 power difference ) , I don’t know how much your better rooster help. I am really curios what’s happening in this war.

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I know it’s a sample size of 1, but this is, by far, the most imbalanced match-up my alliance has faced.

Us:
27 members
Score: 54,803 (23,364 + 31,439)
Above 2000 cups: none
Above 1000 cups: 10

Them:
27 members
Score: 76,654 (40,594 + 36,060)
Above 2000 cups: 5
Above 1000 cups: 22

I’m having difficulty believing that the pairing was based on each player’s top 30 heroes because most of our alliance’s members are fairly new and haven’t built up depth.

Even supposing that the two alliances do have similar top 30 hero scores, there is a huge difference between top 5 hero scores. Why is that important? You only need your best 5 to defend, and these 5 participate in every battle. In a top 30 computation, the top 5 need to be weighted much more heavily than the other 25.

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The alliance we got paid with looks incredible lol… As a casual alliance leader I think we’re going to lose.

But if it’s an average of top 30 heroes perhaps the benches are cold on the other side… Well have to wait and see lol. I’ve been holding onto a level 1 justice and a level 1 Elkanen for goofing around a year down the road but they’re in my top 30 so I might just have to bite the bullet and feed them away. 5* hero power is too inflated lol

Well I personally think that none of us can complain until the war is run.
Yes it looks really bad at the minute but until the war starts I for one will hold my opinion in check.
It does seem very unbalanced for us but who knows they might only have one strong team which is what the match up is based on
But as I have said before there will be happy and unhappy people with any matching system and in all fairness it won’t affect the top alliances either way.
What needs to be done is to pick a system of matching and stick to it 5at way we as players can adjust to it and learn the best way to match our teams to the War mechanics

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As Imentioned elsewhere, the more established alliances will have to wait for the wars itself to know if the matching worked, but can say riht now it does not work for newbies alliances. My alt is in one where there is 1 3000+ member, 3 2000+ memberw, and 24 varying between 1000 and 1700. Most barely have 12 heroes, alfies included. Their oponent has 1 3000+, 17 2000+ and the rest in decreasing order, the lowest being 1500.

I don’t think that is a problem at all. I think you have some 3* maxed behind this 5* unlevelled heroes. So basically your score doesn’t change at all if you eat them. Level 1 5*=level 50 3* in most of the cases,depends in special skill level. If you have only 30 heroes and you have to fight with the unlevelled 5* in war than is a problem, but I think is not the case for you.

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