Mono is not the best meta (in my opinion)! But what is?

Im CtP, have spent a whopping $119 according to google play. Yes, i have been playing since almost release. I can field 1 strong color mono team in each color and in a few other colors 2 mono teams. This game is NOT hard in any way shape or form, so lets quit acting like it is. :joy:

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if it’s not hard why are there umpteen million posts about “raids not fair” " wars are #%@%@^" I’m just saying I never see post saying man I beat everyone everytime I play this game is too easy

Actually, you do.

Every time someone responds to those complaint posts by pointing out how heavily the game is stacked in favor of the attacker, you should read that as: “this game is easy, and I basically beat everyone any time the boards are halfway decent.”

Playing mono makes it relatively simple, yes. That’s a good thing, at times, and should be applauded. It does mean that to some extent your success or failure, after selecting your team and your opponent, will be dictated by your board. You do have some influence in the way you play your board, but you have no control over the speed at which your heroes will charge relative to each other - you have decided that before the game begins.

You can make them all charge quickly, by matching lots of your mono colour, or make them all charge slowly, by matching lots of your missing colours. You cannot favour one hero over another, though, regardless of how situationally important their special might be.

All non-mono strategies are more complicated than that. All require that more decisions of substance be made - rainbow most of all. The ability to make significant decisions is one sort of skill. So it’s fair to say, I think, that in this particular aspect mono requires the least skill of all colour combinations, and rainbow the most.

I don’t see that anyone need be annoyed or insulted by this. I often use mono for Titans when speed is essential. I’m incapable of making optimal rainbow board decisions quickly, so the lack of skill needed to run a mono team is a real asset to me. Even switching to 4-1 or 3-1-1 makes my decision making slow down and my scores often suffer as a result.

Other opinions are always welcome here, but rather than read someone just assert that board play with a mono team requires as much skill as with a rainbow team, I’d love to read how this is the case. Off tiles have identical effect regardless of their colour, right? So when running mono red we don’t need to think too hard about whether it’s better to match blue or green - we just pick the match which is most likely to change the board to our advantage while charging our opponent in the least harmful way possible.

Isn’t that always considerably simpler than 4-1 or 3-2, which is always simpler than 3-1-1 or 2-2-1, which is always simpler than 2-1-1-1?

(Now that I think about it, 2-1-1-1 is necessarily just as complicated as rainbow, because all 5 colours must be treated differently for both tactics. So I was wrong to say that rainbow requires the most skill. Both rainbow and 2-1-1-1 will require equal skill.)

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I’ll help out - if you don’t win 18/20 raids, you’re doing it wrong. :sunglasses:

In all seriousness though, once you get a decent bench of X star heroes and are facing a defense of 5xX heroes and not X+1 heroes, you should really win 80% of your raids. i.e. if you have a large 4 star bench and are facing mostly 4 star defenses, you should win most of them. Same with a bench of 5s vs 5x80.

Obviously for folks still building their bench, as they move up this isn’t the case, trying to fight 5x80 with 1-2 80s and 70s.

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There’s a good chance much of the community missed out on this. I will now improve everyone’s life by linking to it.

Edit: I know I’m off topic. It’s worth it.

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Hi. It IS the most effective at beating tp over 600 plus higher. However, am glad its provoked a positive discussion and has helped me. Plus, in the uk (where I am from) it doesn’t mean that. It just means position or model an acronym would need to be capitals (META) . Thanks though.

Hi. Whilst not totally ftp, I buy the 99p gems each time, have been playing 1 year and 5 to 6 hrs per day. And have had vip. i feel the devs have done a good job so was willing to spend something to appreciate. I have had so many hours good play, listened to most of 7dd and other good guides out there, and spent a lot of time. Time here is the key. But yes, over 1 year or 1500hrs plus of effort has gotten me here. I totally respect truly ftp, but withput anyone giving any funds, the game would have died. Almost all my heroes of 5* are hotm, and a lot have come triggered by epic hero tokens ot 100 atlantis coins. Not asking for a debate on ftp or not. Just pointing out I don’t feel i “bought my way to the top” like man city have in football.

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Mono uber alles.

Seriously it’s awesome and you can overrun anyone with a half decent board. On a low or no tile board every move is strategic and counts.

With all due respect, in the UK (where I am from) my experience is that META in this context means Most Effective Tactic Available. Yes, it is an acronym, and yes, it ought to be capitalised, but most often it is not.

(In other contexts, ‘meta’ can mean ‘self aware’ or ‘self referential’, as in, “It’s interesting how Banksy’s works incorporate a meta commentary on the commercialisation of art.” Meta ought not to be capitalised when used in this way, and it usually is not, but this usage seems irrelevant to our discussion in this thread.)

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Brobb,

I must admit I had never heard of meta being used as an acronym before. Accidental coincidence!

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With mono I could understand it totally, you need to be able to buy yourself an extra couple of turns sometimes if you run into a corner, I meant the people using 3-2 with healers in both colours. Just surprised me a little.

For those who said my previous attempt was too easy

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Right now. I connect and 20 attacks, I won 12 and I lost 8. In conclusion 190 cups less. That is, the victories of pairs, the defeats of mediocre stacking in mono. It is not a matter of whether the monocolor is better or worse, it is a matter of making the game ridiculous, penalizing quality and eliminating the entire strategy. (No, it’s not a strategy to put 5 of 4 of the same color and wait for an acceptable board that will kill you with chips). The monocolor makes the game ridiculous.

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i dont’ think that, this game provide us the choice to play like we want…different heroes, abilities, and synergy.

it’s a style. like all the rest, dominated by RNG

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No, that situation would occur if the stacking were attenuated, a balanced formula was used (except in titan) and it was necessary to look for strategies and synergies to break the defense. With the current mathematical model does not matter, because what you gain is the damage multiplied tile. Never mind the hero.

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I have a confession to make… today in the trials of Mysticism, I went in with a monoteam on all 3 levels. Now let’s not count the first 2 levels, because those are easily beatable. But with 2 purple bosses on the last stage and my pool of sorcerers/wizards, I made the decision that a mono purple team would be the best solution here, but I felt dirty😂.
The board was fairly average and I didnt get in trouble once, but it also didn’t require as much skill and focus of me as it usually would with a 3-2 team. I think that’s what keeps me from going mono all the time, I like a challenge.

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No more ridiculous then stacking a team to take out a specific team. It’s the same thing. You get to choose who you take to the dance. Do you not pick your cards to match up well against your opponent?

No, you just put what you have of that color and that you damage tile, the rest do the board. I have played many MMORPGs, RPGs, etc. and I have never seen one where a 90 hero loses with a 40 or 50 hero.

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The problem is that, while SG, the community, etc. does not stop talking about it being a slow game, of patience and time, in the most important thing it awards immediacy. It takes less and less resources to make 4 or 5 mono teams of 4 * or sprinkled with some 5 *, than to make a rainbow team of 5 *. But with the current formula, as good as the rainbow is, even if they are the best in the game, it is not worth almost anything. The immediacy is rewarded.

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