[Master] Improve / Fix Hero Academy

What should be mind boggling is why everyone keeps pushing for retraining. Retraining is simply adding an extra cost. Not only do you need food and recruits but now you need a hero as well. They should just add in the event and S2 4* into one of the trainings. We accept the need for a hero as an extra cost for 5* because it’s a guaranteed 5* it shouldn’t be cheap. Why do so many people want to make getting event/S2 4* more expensive.

Whatever… as long as non-S1 4* is available through HA, I’m fine with that. If I have to sacrifice 1 Thoth-Amun to have guaranteed Wilbur, I’ll do it.

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Because it’s a very good chance for F2P players. Much better than waiting 4-5 months to gather enough gems for one 10-pull.

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I just saw the odds and the ridiculous amount of time it would likely take for someone to get a non-Season 1 hero (🤓 Hero Academy! FAQ, Links, Guides and Discussion - #13 by Guvnor)

What stood out to me is that 10% of people running it nonstop will NOT receive a non-Season 1 hero after 315 days.

I think we can all agree that those odds are just absolutely ridiculous. I really hope SG increases the odds by a significant amount or at the very least decrease the time for the retraining process so that people don’t go for a whole year of spending tons and tons and tons of food for NOTHING.

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Imho only time kills the process of recycling,
5%* is ok but 7 days of waiting is not…
As it requires very heavy amount of resources with low % I find no harm reducing the time to 2 or 3 days…
I hope they fix it soon, so it doesn’t kill the joy of the game.
*It’s been a ~year since i started my tc 20, i got 13×5☆ out of it.

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As I said before, I dont have problem with time needed to retrain a hero, problem is that I dont want to retrain my dupe HOTMs (almost all of them cost me $$$ to get) into classic heroes I can get using TC20.
Only fair solution IMO would be retraining dupe HOTM into other HOTM (or event hero into different event hero). I am aware that it is not really f2p friendly, but current HA is kinda unfriendly to everyone (classic heroes could be obtained using TC20). I am not optimistic that SGG will ever consider this because it would make Legends summon portal unnecessary, and it would cut their profit.
Also, duplicate costumes should be considered also, since only one costume is needed.

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I have plenty of dupe S1 5* to retrain before I get to my 2 extra Noors lol

Also I still am missing 10 S1 5* so I have a decent chance to get someone new when feeding in Elena 5

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I completely agree, I wish that the HA would have let us retrain HOTMs/Event heroes into other HOTMs/Event heroes. Or maybe letting us use 10 base 5 star heroes to get a non-base 5 star hero.

I really, really hope SG improves the HA but I’m not optimistic.

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Why I can’t use more than one 5* hero for retrain? It’s very strange and uncomfortable
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On level 10 you can get non-standard 5* hero with some odds (about 5%). I don’t think there will be any guaranteed exchange not for money - not in this game

To prevent us from stockpiling and only collect it once a target enter the pool (like possible inclusion of Finley).

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To prevent it I am already have my head with brain inside and message before adding each 5* hero to HA. Finley will be added not early than after one year of releasing. 5-10 will be enought.

I hope they at least give 1 queue space.

We need to be able to run more than 1 hero in the remake.
At least 2!
Coz we don’t pay U to enter the game on the alarm clock to start the next alteration :persevere:

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Furthermore… maybe we can trade 5* heroes for 50 emblems of the same hero class, 4* heroes for 40 emblems of the same hero class and 3* heroes for 30 emblems of the same hero class. Duplicate should be treated with the same value as the gems used to obtain them.

Thanks!

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Agreed. But I say get rid of it altogether and give us what we have been asking for since the beginning, a way to trade team members for items you may need or a building where you take the stuff you have a 1000 of and can harvest it into items you need to ascend hero’s.

Can we get the ability to create a que for Hero Academy level 10? One of the biggest draws for me in getting it up and running was to clear roster space. The current setup doesn’t allow this to happen. Possibly the most frustrating expectation not being met in this whole game for me.

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Or they should allow you to turn in a duplicate 5 star for one 4 star ascension material of that hero”s color. Seems reasonable for players and SG. They wouldn’t be giving away too much and players would be happy.

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One of my issues with HA is that it doesn’t solve your roster size. You retrain a hero, you still get back another hero and a random ■■■■■■ one most of the time. So what’s the point of retraining.
I suggest HA have a ‘retire’ option so that you can retire your 3/4/5*s in exchange for some emblems of that class.

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Guffaw

That’s not an issue. SG has already explicitly announced that the Hero Academy released in the live game is not the answer to minimize, if not eradicate, dupe heroes.

But I do see your problem. Your issue is you are trying to cure headache with Viagra, or cure colds with rice, or unscrew a bolt and nut with a Phillips screwdriver, or fix your television using car tools.

The point of retraining is to have a chance to substitute your dupe legendaries to a different one, preferably one who you don’t have and is one good 5* hero. If you want roster space, go buy that from the in-game shop. Don’t wanna spend gems there? Then feed your dupe legendaries to your rare heroes. You want emblems? Buy them at the shop or open as many chests as possible by skipping most of them. Don’t wanna use gems, then farm alkashards from the Alchemy Lab to get 10 emblems. There, problem solved.

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