[Master] Improve / Fix Hero Academy

Seems about right if you use a second builder for most of the time and waste very little of those builders’ time. I would also assume a player would build 2x TC20 to maximize possible free 5* pulls.

Without calculating the Farm/Mine/Watchtower times, I get around 582d of builder time; dividing by 2 leads to about 291d.

I will say that either a 1 year subscriber to VIP or a 2 year f2p player is a fairly large amount of dedication in order to be able to possibly trade in 1-2 vanilla heroes for limited heroes per year (and no guarantees). Some have requested to be able to build 2 HA, which is fine to help increase the volume of tries per year. I feel that this solution or cutting the retrain time in half are reasonable adjustments to make (the latter is more f2p friendly).

Of course the other levels might need a bit of work; the odds on HA7 for higher star trainers should be improved to increase that level’s utility in my mind.

Note: I am mostly posting to say you are right on the timeline of attaining HA10. Added my feelings regarding the output of HA7/10 as more of a ‘while I am here, I may as well post a bit more’.

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I would gladly trade a duplicate 5* for a Wilbur. He still eludes me. I have pulled multiple 4* of each Atlantis hero without pulling a single Wilbur…

What are your duplicate 5*s? I have a spare Wilbur so i would be up for a trade.

I could use a Wilbur. I only have vanilla 5s available for trade, though. Are you perhaps in need of a Richard? Domitia? Leonidas? Elkanen? I’d offer you a dupe Marjana, but she’s currently in the Hero Academy oven, likely being turned into a Richard, Domitia, Leonidas or Elkanen.

So has been my HA10 experience so far. Put one dupe in, get another dupe out. Put it back in, get another dupe out. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

Sorry but i dont need any S1s, i have all of them.

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I figured as much. The only non S1 dupes I have (had, rather) were many Melias, Mnesseuses etc., other assorted 3* heroes.

I will let you know if I’m ever lucky enough to pull more than 1 non S1 legendary. You can expect a call from me maybe sometime between now and the year 2050.

I know the feeling, i dont have many non S1 dupes either, my dupes are mostly HOTMs ( 2 bertilas, Raffaele, Clarissa, Vela) and 2 S2 (Misandra, Atomos)

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I do have a few HotMs and a couple of event 5*s, but unfortunately only one copy of each. I can’t give away my most precious collectables.

I know it’s my own fault because I stopped “making it rain” on SG long ago, and decided my hundreds of dollars would be better spent on stuff like groceries and rent and bills. I’m kind of goofy like that.

EDIT: scrub scrub scrub that last inappropriate comment before the mods hang me by my toenails…

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I havent spent much at all, when i did the most even that was only the valhalla and atlantis offers with the 400 gems. And now im cutting down on those too.

I just have really awful luck. I’ve been playing for 2.5+ years, have done hundreds of summons across various portals, and have yet to pull a single S2, S3, or S4 5*. Only have a few S2 and S3 4*s. Zero ninjas. Very few event 4 and 5 stars. Others in my alliance have spent less than I did, and they get better luck with their pulls. So it’s mostly just a “me” problem. And the only way for me to “solve” it would be by giving SG even more of my money and hoping that my luck turns around.

RNG just hates me, apparently.

And the feeling is mutual. That’s not a good way to entice me to spend more money, by telling me I have to if I ever want to see any precious heroes ever again. Holding my roster strength hostage, essentially.

I am nearing around 130 pulls on Guardians (spread across multiple events) the only thing i got from those are 2 falcons and 1 Gazelle, yes you read it right NO Jackal from 100+ pulls. I tend to have better luck on other portals but i have a tendency to get the lower shelf heroes whenever i get “lucky”. So Misandra, Norns, Inari, Mok-arr, Atomos, never the A grade ones.

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That’s a lot of pulls for a low spender! You must be a very dedicated player.

I was once a dedicated player. Then I took an arrow to the knee.
Nah. I just got tired of grinding for hours just to pull another Dawa.
Building up so much excitement over “I almost have enough coins/gems/tokens whatever to do a summon! Maybe today is my lucky day!”

Nope. Dawa again.


I really don’t know how you guys do it, staying so committed to grinding nonstop in a game that has such low rewards.

What fundamental difference between Dawa (bytes and pixels) for real money and “new shiny must have already OP” 5* hero which become obsolete after next season release (bytes and pixels) for real money? :slight_smile:
Dawa is eternal

LOL. Dawa is eternal, yes. But she can also be obtained for free. I pull her twin sisters from my TC20s on a regular basis. $3 may not seem like a lot of money, but $3 can buy me a real life meal. Dawa is barely even a side dish of a feeder hero.

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I understand correctly - if SGG makes Dawa only paid, will this solve the problem? :slight_smile:

Not for me, no. :laughing: What would solve the problem for me is if heroes were obtained through game play. As in, you finish an event or province, and you unlock a new hero.

Putting the heroes into slot machines with tiny chances and only giving players 1 free spin a month, then telling them they can buy as many spins as they want with real money… that is the problem.

Do you want the casino to give you money for free just for enter and few steps? It’s not a game with good gameplay for fun - it’s a pure gambling :slight_smile:

That is the problem! That is exactly what I don’t like about the game! I don’t want to play a casino. I want to play a game.

I know now that this game is a casino, but I didn’t know that when I downloaded it. I got suckered into it thinking that it was a game for fun. But it’s not. It is a casino. And I don’t like that.

So no, it’s not a good game for me. I’ve wanted to quit, but I stayed in because I do have fun with the social alliance aspects. But why does it have to be a casino??? At least a casino might give me real money in return. This game only sells sprites that we don’t even get to keep.

It’s one of manipulation mechanics of this “game” - works as intended :slight_smile:

Because in this form it give big profit to owners with minimal costs. Something like revolution in gambling industry - casino which is available to everyone (you just need have mobile phone and internet connection) and does not give anything for real money (only bytes and pixels which you don’t own).

For example, there is company Plarium (developer of other mobile casino). Owner of Plarium is a company that specializes in the production of casino equipment

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Yes, it is working as intended. And yes, it is hugely profitable. But you said so yourself -

That is unfortunate. I wish it was a game with good gameplay for fun. But it’s not.

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