So I have Frida and Ranvir, who both have elemental defense buff to their weaker element. I would have figured they would stack as elemental defensive downs stack (see screen shot). I would like Aegir and Zim to stack as well, but I can see how that would be against current president, so I would leave that alone, but the elemental def buff does go against president so I would (and obviously am) argue that is a bug.
Whether it’s actually a big or not only SG can confirm. But it seems to be a carryover from beta.
We will see what they say. Even if they say it is not a bug it is inconsistent with previous president and should warrant a clarification. Especially the not resetting if not stacking.
Why consider it a bug? This is undispellable buff meaning it can’t be override even by the same buff
Because when the same hero casts the same undispllable special on themselves it resets.
I have the same issue with all my HOtM family bonus. When you have 2+ hero’s from the same HOtM family bonus, the family bonus does not apply to all allies. Based on troops, Athena and Cobalt and receiving normal healing for troops and are not receiving the +20 that Vela, Rafi & Glenda are receiving. I have noticed the same thing with other HOTM family bonuses also. My 2019 family attack boost is also not applying to all when you have 2+ from the same family
Since normal Element defense buffs do not overwrite each other ( see notes )
The intent of Elemental rainbow link buffs overwriting each other seems to be preventing Attack +X% from stacking 5x ( 1x for each color )
Will be interesting to see how they deal with Elemental rainbow links that create minions since that could quickly overwrite more useful minions
Click for notes
Below link includes an overwrite table
Which will need to be updated by a @moderator when rules for Elemental rainbow links are confirmed working as intended ( we miss you @DaveCozy )
Elemental defense debuff stack ( see previous post )
But since we do not know the latest version of the damage formula, we were never able to check a possible bug with Elemental defense debuff from an Elemental link
Maybe Devs could comment
It only applies to heroes in the same family, not the same team
So 2020 HotM share a family but 2017 HotM are in a different family even though on same team
Maybe change the wording of elemental links
Something like 2019
Defense +X% against Color ( HotM buff )
Since HotM buffs are going to work differently than any similar buffs ( once again, the forum staff, and mods, are going to be overworked as this game mechanic spreads )
So, I have tried Glenda and Bertila. Glenda fired first, and since I paired her with Bertila, Glenda gave everyone minions, but Bertila only got a green minion for herself.
In a way, this seems to balance out, because if both Glenda and Beetila had minions for everyone, then it would a bit unfair with me having a swarm of minions. So if you have a hero with the same elemental style link, they won’t stack
What was your team? Bertila is 2021 which hasn’t been activated yet, so the 2+ HoTMs from this year shouldn’t do anything
I had whole team mana gen boost from 2019 Family (Neith) 4%.
Then when mana gen boost from 2018 Family (Delilah) 10% fired, it did not apply at all. (i.e. Did not overwrite - did absolutely nothing - everyone still at 4%).
Likewise, if Delilah fires first then team gets 10% mana gen, then when Neith fires it does nothing. (in this direction, however, the bug is nice to stay at 10%!)
Not a bug, it’s an undispellable buff so you can’t dispel or overwrite it. It was confirmed this way in beta
Roger that. Thank you!
So, having read through it all, I gather that two heros that provide the same buff from the hotm years won’t overwrite each other. But what about Anzogh and Frida? They both provide elemental defense boosts, but it’s for different elements. To me that’s a different buff and should both be present, but that’s not happening for me. Are those considered the same?
Thank you for the reports, we’ll investigate this issue here.
But if you read the card it states “bonus for 2+ hero’s: Elemental Link affects all allies”. My interpretation of this statement is that if I bring in 2+ HOtM of the same family, then the family bonus will impact all allies and not just the HOtM family.
Any info? Feedback ?
Why are Anzhog’s and Margaret elemental defense against, respectively, blue and red. Overwriting each other. Neith doesn’t get overwritten, so either we can’t have more than one elemental def active at a time ou it’s a bug. Because I plan on building a defense on that duo. So, bug ? Or, WHY?
I know the 2 are not from the same combat.