@Rfm Heheh hehehe yes. 2400. Edited already thanks. I got both at 80. I only use thorne in defense. Isarnia only for atack. Can’t get Isarnia to work on defense. I’ve got a slow MN. In defense already
I choose thorne if you have maxed grimm
Isarnia is a beast! Thorne would heat one time and die leaving nothing after. I have isarnia and azlar. When they are charched, you are dead. Both in my defense team in the flanks, I never go below 2550 without raids.
I don’t have Isarnia… But Thorne is not bad at all. He is always part of my 3-2 blue heavy team along with Kiril+6 and Grimm+14, and I tell you he packs a mean punch. They all have average mana so charge up together and if you unleash Kiril, Grimm and Thorne in that order you are looking at a lot of damage. On defense also he is quite good. But that’s just my personal experiences. 
Also, in defense he is quite solid and can maintain 2400+ cups when paired witj suitable heroes.
Just saw this. That is hilarious.
It’s only 8:25 but I’m going to declare that my Bardic Post of the Day 
Even though it’s a bit old
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Which heroes do you pair Thorne with on defense raid team?
This is what I have as my defense team. Not the best heroes maybe, but these are all I have. But they do the job well, keeps me in diamond arena quite comfortably.
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I have Isarnia maxed, but I don’t really use her.
Don’t get me wrong, Isarnia is very good, especially with talents, but her slow mana is the deal breaker for me. Wilbur has the same defence debuff for the average mana. Athena has better debuff for the average mana.
For me, average mana 3-hitter Thorne would be better than Isarnia damage-wise.
Thorne. I raid many teams that have Isarnia, and if she manages to fire, it’s pretty weak. Plus, I always carry at least 1 hero with dispel into a raid, and that removes her defense bonus.
Thorne can be quite tough to bring down once emblemed. Not that bad if you combo him with Grimm/Frida.
Isarnia is basically a monster best not to let her fire at all.
So both can be good but what do you use most is the most important. Isarnia might be better for challenges and quests.
Your line-up makes sense, I use a similar approach. You don’t like to use Thorne as tank?
I like Thorne as tank too. But since I had leveled Justice before him, she got all the paladin emblems. So right now Justice is superior in health and defense compared to Thorne, plus she is slow mana, so I though that keeping her in the middle might help her to fire more often.
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Isarnia then isarnia and last isarnia
Ha!
Although, now I look in detail, his clenched hand is actually as big as his head.
He may be a man of large extremities!
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isn’t it perspective? He has long arms. And his head is definitely not proportional to the rest of the body.
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That’s a good way of thinking about it. Raid defense is uway* down my list of priorities. Offenses (and player technique) has gotten so good that it’s not plausible to hold top 100 for more than an hour. It’s a good night if I’m still,over 2600 in the morning. (Actually, I’m happiest when I’m below 2500 to start, as it makes filling my chest all the easier.)
Frida created a space for Thorne: a Frida-Thorne 1-2 hit is very effective on raid/war offense. With emblems, he’s pretty effective on defense, too, though he doesn’t pose any special risk.
You didn’t waste nothing. Stop trash talking. Some heroes need to be paired to be strong, try to pair Thorne with Grimm or Frida and you will see the result. Same with Anzogh, pair him with Boldtusk or Wilbur or both, you will be amazed what a combo can do.
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I kind of thought Thorne and Richard might be half-giants or something, not full humans.
(I wonder if Ice Giant Huntress Alasie makes them uncomfortable?)
But back to gameplay, Isarnia all day.
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Got both at 80. And a miki at 80 plus a 70 grimm with emblems. Poor red titans tsk tsk
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I didn’t realize until now that I didn’t say rush war. I went with Isarnia whom I’ve had for a while at 3-70 I leveled her now and going to use as an hero on my rush defense team which is now in this order Vivica Quintus Heimdall Isarnia and Azlar. I know her shield is weak but next to a green tank I think she will be okay