#MeToo.
Plus sometimes I’m interested in a megathread and it’s completely jarring when topics get merged into it, especially if they’re repeat topics and all the comments from that topic come along with it.
Well wishes
Good luck mods ( not being sarcastic)
Being a moderator on other forums, their is no smartphone friendly way to merge topics.
Pros
Messy merged topic are better than a wild tangle of stubs scattered throughout the forum clogging up the search. Search within a topic is also more friendly than forum wide search. The main reason being it excludes the Suggestion sub forum ( though advanced search lets you avoid sub forums also ). And chronology is easier to decipher when there are several changes ( such as with titans).
Forums are messy things because humans are messy.
“Moderators are paid and praise and taxed in grief. The pay is too low and the taxes too high!”- Gryphonknight
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Agreed, I have no interest in reading through giant threads.
Closing the pre-release thread seems a bit harsh. A compromise would be just marking the pre-release thread subject as [pre-release] and the post-release subject as [post-release].
I agree, it seems pretty arbitrary to close it. But I don’t know how else we wouldn’t always end up with two active threads on the same topic.
Do you have other suggestions?
As a side note: I actually really like many short threads where one specific question is asked and answered in a few messages. It makes searching much easier. If all questions about a particular mechanic/hero/etc are merged to longer threads, then it makes searching more difficult.
I agree completely!
The challenge is that many of the posts created lack clarity in their titles and questions. People also often wander off the specific topic within a thread.
When someone writes a clear, direct topic title and top post, it’s a thing of beauty. And those threads do well to stay on their own.
It’s the muddy ones that are a challenge — and if we left all of those alone, there would be literally dozens of very similar posts about everything. Usually with a profoundly vague title.
I’m honestly not sure how best to ensure good, clear post topics that make searching work well. So far a fair amount of editing has been happening to make them clearer.
While I get your point and appreciate the job you are doing, trigger-happy merging sometimes creates unfollowable mess.
trigger-happy merging sometimes creates unfollowable mess.
I appreciate that — to be clear, at least in the context of any merges I am aware of related to Wonderland, none of them were more than a single post or two. They weren’t extensive conversations that were merged in, just a single related question and sometimes one or two short responses.
So for that case at least, I don’t think the “unfollowable mess” was an issue of merging…the original thread’s conversation was equally meandering.
In fact, the vast majority of posts in that thread were not merged in — only a handful or so were.
(Though I can’t speak for whether larger merges I’m not aware of may have also happened.)
The idea of separate short threads is a good one, if the topics are well-defined.
USE YOUR LIKES !!!
I’m honestly not sure how best to ensure good, clear post topics that make searching work well. So far a fair amount of editing has been happening to make them clearer.
If users would use their Gorram Likes, the “Summarize This Topic” button works wonders.
Goes from 257 posts - with a 34 minute average read time - to 54 posts ( linky, linky )
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==Highlights==
(What are "Likes"? - users - Discourse Meta)
Likes are central to how Discourse works. So central in fact that there’s no “on/off” button for them because Discourse is not designed to run without likes enabled.
Signaling
- Topic Summaries: The feature where Discourse summarizes long topics is heavily influenced by how much each post is liked. Without that signal the content will be less useful to users who are looking for “the gist” of the topic.
- Top Topics: Likes are used in the calculation of the “Top Topics” filter as a way to allow users to find high quality topics on the forum.
Edit 2019-Jan-28:
This is cool
MASTER THREAD (Solved) - Training Camp Lost food/recruits at withdrawal
If you click the “Summarize Topic” button, the first reply is always the “Solution”:
MASTER THREAD (Solved) - Training Camp Lost food/recruits at withdrawal
Looks like we better also add a third category for snarky, dismissive commentary so we don’t miss anyone…
No need. Just put your comment in the first thread, mine in the second one. See, it’s working already. Again, your welcome.
The problem is, you have to split/merge whole conversations. Maybe they can just add a category for “scintillating repartee” and move both our comments there. That would help everyone by creating a thread that’s safe to ignore.
The judgment is simple. When you have quetion but meeged yet without being answered, it means that the merge is improper.
I suspect that the merge is abused as a way to punish those who are not a cheerleader for SG. They merge you to the dead threads others are no longer intetested in.
Yeah, clearly they never merge positive posts or posts by people who are generally positive about the game…
…like this MERGED/CLOSED post by the person who put up a very popular thread about how great the game is:
Goblin Queen Speed: Average Attack: 550 Defense: 800 HP: 1560 Special ability: “Rat Soup for the Soul” Heals all allies by 40% Restores all current Minion health Generates one goblin minion for all allies with 15% caster HP, which adds +30% DEF/HP boost If the owner of a goblin minion is dealt a fatal blow while active, the goblin minion has a 20% chance to resurrect the owner.
…or this:
As this is the first new event since emblems have came out. I am very excited that there are emblems in the completion rewards, but nowhere else in the Top X rewards. I think this encourages people to take part in every level of the event while making sure perennial powerhouses don’t run away in talent progression.
…or this:
Out of 5 pulls, I’m happy! Other 2 were just feeders. [image] [image] [image]
…or this:
In first place i want to congratulate you SG for a AWESOME idea…second…please give a big fat bonus to the guy who had this magnificent idea!!! Sorry for my English…
…or this:
Thank you for the Valentine’s Day offer SG!!! I’ve been looking for a meaningful way to let my alliance know how much I appreciate them. This was perfect, affordable and well-timed!!! Happy Valentine’s Day!!! Wishing you an abundance of love & blessings!!!
…or this:
I was down to her, with one hit point left, against two Gravemakers, Mok-Arr, and Victor, and she stirred her stew and saved my bacon. [image] You can watch the video here: [Mother North, comeback queen - Empires and Puzzles] https://youtu.be/WCOlAAQFCrw
…or this:
I finally got all girl band with excellent support group! Capture%20_2019-02-12-10-53-09~2|690x473 [Capture%20_2019-02-12-10-54-50~2] [Capture%20_2019-02-12-10-55-01] [Capture%20_2019-02-12-10-54-13] [Capture%20_2019-02-12-10-53-54] [Capture%20_2019-02-12-10-53-37][Capture%20_2019-02-12-10-53-09~2]
…or this:
So here’s the deal… I got my 6th set of poison darts a few weeks ago when Shiloh came around, and I’ve had Drake patiently waiting for his turn to go to final ascension. I had him all set to ascend months ago, but opted to max Joon instead, because I had (and still have) a serious lack of fast snipers. I can’t say I regret that choice - the one-two punch of G. Jackal and Joon is incredible - but after seeing how well Drake does on defense, I’ve been questioning if I should have done things diffe…
…or this:
Adding a glow around the class icon when we have enough emblems to learn a talent would save us from going in to each hero’s talent grid to check if we have enough yet. Not the most important request but it would be a nice quality of life improvement in game. [image]
…or this:
Well this was just dropped on me from a regular monster chest. IT’S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!! [image]
And on, and on, and on.
SG logic: anything could be merged, EXCEPT these full of unanimous acclaim upon them.
Every last one of those threads was merged and closed. The notion that there’s some agenda behind enforcing the forum rules on duplicate threads is just craziness.
I frequent a poker forum, probably not allowed to name it here but it’s the good one lol. Uhh the main thing the mods do is handle abusive comments and spam. Occasionally move something to the right section. That’s about it. Sometimes there’s even more than one thread about the same thing going on! here’s the thing… it’s super easy to navigate through titles of posts and find one you want to click on. But it’s not easy to navigate your way through a jumbled mess of hundreds of comments and disjointed conversations from posts merged together. It’s disruptive to the conversations people are trying to have and it’s a hassle on the person who clicked for a specific thing but now they have to dig through all these comments that are a separate thing from what you clicked for. All those posts about “thanks for the Valentine’s Day offer” yeah lump em together, that’s not a discussion and those types of posts do clutter the forums. But if they didn’t get clumped, not a big deal… Browsing the topics it takes like not even half a second to know what a post is about and whether or not THAT POST and the conversation from THAT POST is what you want to read.
It also makes me wonder when a new person posts and then the post get merged into “the ridiculous name a thread” how they end up feeling being told their view is basically ridiculous.
Can you give an example of this happening? I agree that it would be a really bad thing to do. Personally, I feel pretty uncomfortable even linking to one of those threads in another thread, because of the message it sends.
The only thing I’ve ever seen is people mistakenly posting real complaints in those threads, which usually get split out pretty fast.
I’ll go dig for them… Been a lot of posts in tge last week or so…
It also makes me wonder when a new person posts and then the post get merged into “the ridiculous name a thread” how they end up feeling being told their view is basically ridiculous.
I can’t speak for everyone, but I know I haven’t and never would merge a complaint into The Ridiculous Complaints thread as it’s meant to be satire, not real complaints.
I have seen people put real complaints in there, though, which are typically moved to more appropriate spots.
The other “ridiculous” threads describe something as ridiculous, not the complaint itself, e.g. Summons are ridiculous - Summons MASTER or Class quests ridiculous — and those are actual complaint threads, with titles chosen by the OPs.
I had ignored this thread until I went searching for what I thought was a minor sub-topic re Wonderland. Lo and behold the major heading of Wonderland seemed to have been merged with every little title I looked at.
The problem is if you try to find the smaller topic, it is lost in the jungle.