How effective is Joon 5* 3.70 in raids/ war versus 4* 4.70 from Legendary training

==Good Bits==

Well RNGesus is just messing with me. Jackal. The 3* Orbs go to Jackal.

==Long rant==

I was storing finished heroes in legendary training until I summoned a good 5* hero in Atlantis summons ( mostly I use it to store 24.7 million food, but the 3*/ 4*/ 5* heroes would be helpful to level a good 5* hero ) or summon a HotM that I need for my team ( I have several HotM but either lack materials to level them or have the materials but they do not fit on my team ).

But there is a second builder incident and suddenly I have 5* 1.1 Joon. So I post to the forum, listen to the replies, and decide to level Joon to 5* 3.70 with 3* Orbs.

My first summons today is Guardian Jackal. This woke up Gryphonkit, my wife.

I am now have the problem of leveling Jackal to 4* 4.70 and Joon to 5* 3.70. I will now be buying 3* Orbs ( and perhaps a compass ) the next time they appear in a calendar sale.

This my readers is how casinos stay in business. I will remember this day for the next five to eight years.

I now name my Joon “The ill timed” for once again, if it was not for another hero, he would get all the attention.

My advice:

If you have Joon, level him as much as you can, then Chao.

Level up all heroes you can in your roster, one by one.

That will give you more flexibility and you will be able to finish more events, which will give you more AM’s.

BTW, the only valid comparison with Joon in your roster is Chao.

Li Xiu and Wu Kong are great heroes, but Wu Kong special does not help much if you are fighting Boril or Cyprian. Li Xiu is more a defensive player, I actually use her as a tank.

Vivica is also totally worth leveling up, she is the ultimate healer.

You may not have all the materials rigght now, but it’s way better to have your 5*s ready to go at 3/70 than having to work all the way through when you get them.

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Congrats on your jackal. Meanwhile, I did a 10 pull and came up empty handed, yeah rng really like to mess with us sometimes. I really2 want falcon or give me a second jackal, I dont mind at all. And that was 3 months worth of gems hoard.

About the 3s mats, I think the 3 rolls on titan makes quite a different. I’ve been almost a year now with my alliance. We are casual but active bunch, not much chat but at least 80% participate everyday and sometimes less on weekend. Little to no drama, now, with war individual opt out, we are drama free. We dont force anyone to participate but do encourage them and puts notes if we want the titan to go down like the merc message, but within our alliance,lol. When I first started, we are killing 5s and I used to carry them for the longest time. At that time, my alliance is too casual, meaning they just play the game and didnt know how to use their heroes properly, let alone setup a good team to optimze the titan hit. Now, we are kiling 7-8s, I can breath easy and can fall to a or b score and no longer need to cover for them as much. When I was carrying them, sometimes I feel stressed and want to move alliance but now I just harvest the fruit of my hardwork and can relax kiling 7,8s, cheers on winning war, share tips on hard quests for newbies, etc. Am I lucky to be with my alliance? Yes, I am. But it is for a cost.

Newbie here, 3 weeks in pulled Delilah, Quintus, Thoth Amon, kunchen and now Joon. SH11, uilding,upgrd mines,farms TC. Have a bunch of 4*,3* feeding them up, good color coverage …an embarassment of riches. Not sure where to concentrate other than build up…help

Having problems w/screen shotso will summurize inventory. Know that ihave shot my wad in $ and gems for some time to coe.
Delilah 5* 1.12, Joon 5* 1.6, , Kunchen 1.1, Quintus 1.7, Thoth-Amon 1.4,…
Wu Kong 4 * 1.1, Triton 1.8, sumitomo 1.8, Little John 2.1 and dup at 1,1, Borio 1.40, Wilbur 1.14, (feed him a dup), Scarlett 1.30, Colen 1.21, Grimm 1.18, Rigar 1.20,
Proteus 1.17, Melendor 1.16(fed him a dup),…
3*…bane 2.30, and dup 1.1, Nashgar 2.16, Valen 2.1, Renfeld 2.1, Jahangir 2.1, Dawa 1.7, Carver 1.3(fed a dup), Gunnar 1.14, Tyrum 1.10, Gato 1.18, Mnesseus 2.1, Gill-Ra 1.24, Berden, 2.1, Hawkmoon 2.3, Gan Ju 2.1 and a dup @1.1, Graymane 2.1, Kailani 1.18. And feeder fish 2* & 1*. … awaiting a quorum to be fed, to ?WHOM?.. helpppp

Finger check. Boril…

And the alliance is no help, i amthe only one talking, offering references for newer Bees than me…leaders are not…leading

You have very nice heroes, but likely missing the ascension materials to get them to final level, especially for the 5 star heroes.

You could consider focusing on some 3 and 4 stars, building up your first rainbow team that you can use both for titans, quests, evens, raids and war - more fun, more ascension materials. Remember you need 30 heroes for alliance war, don’t eat them up so much that you get under 30 (even a 2 star is better than nothing).

There are two popular leveling tactics. If you want to focus on a specific hero, then you can feed all 1 and 2 stars to that hero. If you want to focus on increasing your bench depth, then you can color feed - same color 1 and 2 stars as food, giving more xp per feeder to the hero you are levelling.

I recommend same color feeding to new people, because you need several heroes, not only one. Feed 10 1*, same color until special is maxed at 8/8, feed 1* and 2* same color after that. This means you might need to use some gems to buy extra hero capacity, that’s a good long term investment anyway.

Of your heroes, you could consider focusing on (pick first in the line, then next when first is finished):

Yellow: finish Bane, Wu, Joon, Delilah
Red: Wilbur, Scarlet, Sumi
Purple: Rigard, Proteus, Kunchen
Blue: Triton, Grimm, Boril
Green: Berden, Melendor, Little John

You could also consider stopping feeding away duplicates, at least until you get 30 4 star heroes.

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ZERO is a family of 5 alliances playing on different levels. We share a common Line group for exchanging information and having fun together. Our training alliance, ZERO origins is recuriting. :wink:

If you would decide to look for a new home, then please consider us.

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I don’t have room in my alliance so I have no motive here…you should find a new alliance.

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Looking, not finding your alliance. Who is leader…re my details, have 80 slots, been color feeding from the start. Reading forum etc.

Have 42 heros 3* and up, not counting trainers and dups. Have ascend materials for first levels, hurt mostly for food.

Cool, there’s a lot of good topics and analysis on forum.

The training alliance is called Zero Origins, lead by DJ Elite.

Or ping us in Line:
Our leader: djlite247
Me: silver_dragon-r

I want to finish these next hopefully 1 worst case 2 AW so i can get my piec of the war chest. Have been finishing in the middle of the pack, and want my share.
Thanks for the help

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Help Bane is now at 2.30 special only 5/8…is he stuck if ascended? I don’ know what comes next and can’t see answer on forum


No, he isn’t. If a hero is maxed without specials on 8/8, then you are able to feed him still. Level doesn’t increase anymore, but there is a increased chance of maxing special. It happens with 3*s, no worries.

You could try feeding him with same color 1*s, that might help if you want to nax special before hero is maxed.

I made error. Bane is at 2.40 and level toggle doesn’t react allowing me to feed(same color of course) ascend would work, barring enough food. Stll at 5/5. How do i feed w/o ascending, or can i feed after to increase speacial skill… sorry for confusion🏸

Finger check special @ 5/8…

Raid for food. When not farming, hunt

A 3* is prone to not reaching 8/8 though it has been maxed. I see it as 10% or less. Do not chase it by feeding it if there are ofher heroes leveling up. A dupe of the offending hero will help more than 10 ofhers of fhe color.

You should study the feeding of heroes using search. There are lots of threads about training camps, as well as videos.

Search will help more than questions.

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