Hero Balance FAQ - Discussion

Easiest thing to do is just add some special skill damage. Like Inari.

180% damage to all enemies

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Thought on the FAQ: why do you bother with the BS, you know you didn’t tune/adjust the hero to balance the game, you did it to lure ppl into spending while you screw ppl that have already spent money. Save yourselves sometime and shouldn’t even bother, because you don’t even listen to the community anyways, why pretend to care about the game with this FAQ while you clearly do not. Beta tester warn you many times on many different instances a hero will be OP on release. Anyone with a brain and fair-minded head will know Kalo would be OP, his special is fundamentally designed OP. You didn’t listen and release it, let ppl pay money for it and then nerf it, you did the same with Christmas heros. Besides the fact you shouldn’t even need beta tester to warn you about things, simple things like Kalo any decent game Dev should’ve foresee.

Shaddy businesses practice. If you really cared about balance of the game there are many S1 hero needed tuning, and S2 and other old heros. But instead you release costume to make ppl pay again for these heros, and some S1 still crap after costume you don’t even care. So all those things in the FAQ are just BS.

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@Petri
If you want to play this game, you will nerf the heroes after you have created a super hero and after the Beta tell you that it is too powerful and after the Cash, the least you can do is be honest with whoever invests their money in this game and pays you for your vacations and make a description in the hero card (Attention do not level this hero until after 2 months it is possible that his numbers change) that is being honest.
And remember, the largest percentage of people who have voted on the KALO nerf think he is a balanced hero and doesn’t need to be nerfed by (let’s see if you listen) SGG / Zynga / or Take Two …or just @Petri.

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I must be one of the few that enjoys the game immensly. Maybe help the community understand that the balance subject should not be emotional and personal but to the greater community at large. Not every hero has to be obtained by everyone. When we work on our counters every hero can be outdone. I think when a new hero is obtained people believe that the hero is the best hero that has no counters. Time and patience just like chess has calculated moves. Happy with the game!

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You are entitle to your opinion, but perhaps you really don’t get what others are pointing out. There is nothing wrong with tuning balancing hero, many live service game has seasons where certain build/hero become “meta” and change with each update, it keeps the game fresh.

But what SSG is doing here is clearly not the case. Any gamer or so call “game dev” with half a brain will know Kalo special is designed to be fundamentally OP, Devs were warned (as with many other things) from Beta testing, yet SSG push to release the hero, why? To scam people’s money, after people spent the money ascended and limit broke the hero, they nerf it, none of the mats will be refunded, if you care you might have to buy those mats again as well.

This is not the first time, and it happen so frequently these days, last time was Christmas Hero, right after event was over, everyone paid their money to chase those hero, they nerf it. Same with Kalo and many times before. If it happen once, might be mistake/oversight, if it happen 2nd time, give them benefit of the doubt. If it happen repeatedly and become a trend, would you still want to defend it to not be a shaddy business practice to scam people’s money? I beg to differ.

This is looking at it as an experience gamer from multiple MMORPG and live service games, and I am looking at it objectively with zero emotion attached. I don’t even have Kalo nor care to chase it cause I knew it would be nerf cause I knew the special was designed fundamentally OP, surprise surprise, an insignificant gamer like me can foresee it, the well paid talented SSG game Dev can’t see it? Or did they saw it but choose to ignore it for other reasons (money)? I am sure a fair minded person looking at it objectively know the answer in their heart, no need to be personal or emotional, just be normal and reasonable.

I am not attacking you, I apologize in advance if it sounded offensive, is not my intent and I merely want to point out why people have their view on it, and hope if you look at it fairly you will come to understand. Till then, have a good day.

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Yup. They are allowed to do this per the Terms of Service. Players are also allowed to uninstall the game and not look back.

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Yup, they are entitled to release a fundamental OP hero that beta tester warned them about and any gamer with half a brain will know its OP but well paid talented “game dev” can’t see it lololol. Wait for ppl to paid the money then nerf it in the name of balance scamming ppl money. They are entitled to do that, good luck with the shielding tho lol

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Is the hero creep the ever increasing power, the person that signed off on them, or both?
I’ll hang up and listen to the answer over the radio.

It’s sad…

Even then… it was 3.6 Roentgen

I can tell you it is much more enjoyable to watch the frenzy. To watch the water froth will blood.
While sitting up on the beach

No terms of service, or contract for that matter, supersede laws. Bait and switch is a scam, and is illegal. If someone has the desire, time, or money to actually take them to court, is another story, But make no mistake, what they are doing is unethical and very greedy, and at best, walking that illegal line.

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Questa è l’ennesima dimostrazione che i programmatori ci prendono per il culo e tantissimi presunti players compreso tanti beta dovranno giocare a candy crush

Yup, well said, if someone willing to take them to court I can see SG losing, because everything they’ve been doing is anti-consumer, terms and condition can only protect you so far, they are outright scamming. Might be news to some, Terms and condition still have to complied with the law, they aren’t above the law. Just that taking them to court will cost too much and no one will be willing to do that, it doesn’t mean they are on the correct side. Funny the amount of money the whales sink into the game they can probably take SG to court and force them to change the game for better, too bad it ain’t going to happen.

The excuse of “balance” is debunk outright when you look at other OP event 5 stars, hello Ludwig, hello the purple/red octopus face, and many more, oh did Starfall event hero and villains hero needed the buffs? Instead of tuning old S2, S3 heros they release costume so you can pay to pull again on what you already own lol.

Give me break, @ those shields lol

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Yes it is,
I’m not disagreeing with you or @Enoikos11
however…
you paid for pixel gems
And they gave them to you.
No bait. No switch.

All the content that you access belongs to them
You agreed to that. We all did.

Some people really enjoy imbalance.
And do not want to work for their dopamine.
They got upset when Guinevere was nerfed.

Too many players here:
Defend imbalance
Beg for imbalance
Even make silly videos claiming imbalance doesn’t exist…

It’s futile to argue…

The imbalance junkies have won
Their "Learn2Play" lectures of paying for pixel counter niche heroes, have won…
Even when a buff is asked for a weak hero, you have to argue with players…

Now… ask yourself:
"How does SG make money on the next portal?"

There is only one way with no room left…

Anyway… good luck with court
And even better luck debating balance…

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No one will take them to court for a insignificant game. They know they are screwed if someone actually did. Just have a court order asking to release all the warning beta tester gave and someone collect all the forum feedbacks. Judge just ask one question, why did you go ahead with all those legitimate warning ahead of time, wonder which terms and condition will cover that lol.

It is sad this game has potential but the whales refuse to collectively do something has ruined it by encouraging them when they deserve none. Look at more significant games, imagine Bungie tried to pull something like this on Destiny, right? Ya ain’t happening, cause the community actually cared about the game and the game dev there actually cared about their game.

So w/e, SG will just keep on doing w/e they please with no regard to any of you lol

EnP is an online rental where, per the Terms of Service agreement, they have creative control of the content.

Don’t like it? Uninstall. I did.

Or like me, don’t uninstall it play it with your friends but play and another game and add your money in the new one (if you are spender).

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Rental is an interesting take indeed but it undeniably has gambling mechanics. So how does rental with gambling mechanics works. (legit curious) Don’t suppose someone can go to casino win a bet with gambling and the casino turn around and tell you what you won is not yours, or is a rental so what you win is only temporary yours? That be funny. Not having a dig at you, I am legit finding it seriously fascinating lol.

Sidenote: Incase anyone still want to argue about gambling mechanics, iirc EA has lost lawsuit on their ultimate team, I could be wrong on exact details but I remember there was something like that a couple years back. Some EU countries have group them to be governed under same as casino games etc.

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You can’t convert anything in the game into money. It is how they argue it isn’t gambling.

If you haven’t seen it, take a watch of Let’s Go Whaling.

The game definitely has gambling aspects and cultivates themes geared to addiction.

As long as it is legal, the app stores want to see maximum transactions.

Unless someone takes them to court and wins, I’ll default to their ToS governing.

It is also how EA tried to argue in their case with FIFA and Ultimate team and pack opening iirc. You couldn’t convert anything in FIFA back to money either. But the keyword is a “game of chance” when opening the FIFA packs (same as pulling heros), and you do “involve real life money” because they are used to open the packs, same as you use real life money to buy gems to pull from portal.

If take direct comparison to FIFA, EnP release an OP hero on purpose (forewarned by beta tester, and anyone with half a brain), FIFA release an super OP player card, but after everyone paid to chase the card they nerf the card. I can’t imagine the FIFA community will accept that, but because that is a more important game with more attention, EnP is a small mobile game that is insignificant in the bigger picture.

Thats why I do find it funny the whales in this game think they are so great and important, when at the end of the day, this game is hardly significant, and SG don’t even give 2 crap to respect your investment in money nor time lol.

w/e it is sad that this is how we talk about this game, is actually quite pathetic the game dev have no pride in their game, nothing gonna change. Have a nice day.

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