I think Garten is reasonably well-balanced overall
I think Garten is excessively weak, and needs a buff (increase of their strength)
I think Garten is excessively strong, and needs a nerf (decrease of their strength)
I’m not sure yet
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If you think Garten is well-balanced, too strong, or too weak — why?
Are there specific, concrete suggestions you’d make to the game designers to alter Garten ? Or are there specific reasons you think they should remain unchanged?
Purpose of this thread:
To provide an aggregate place for the topic here on the forum; thus preventing there being a million threads popping up. And to provide an actual set of impartial votes rather than a Ideas & Feature Requests which has no real voting.
In short, to neaten the forum and to give players and outlet for their thoughts on his balance without bogging down the rest of the forum or the other Garten thread.
i need to impress my disappointment in decision to completely change how hero works
from very nice strong hero that protect team and punish enemies upon attack and heals
i summon for hero that have counterattack and heals , invest materials and time and now we have hero that heals only as important part and do job worst then FAST Mariol that heal same amount of heal and do all rest of specials better
very disappointed in version that this hero is now
he is just nothing from hero he was and we summon for in one of worst odds portals he was featured
as i stated in his hero topic i did expect he will be tunned down, but to take his most importan part of his purpose is crazy
he can be reworked and tuned down for example:
hit all to 280% and half of amount of damage done he can boost health of allies and half of damage(same as boost) he can reduce health of enemies
or something like that
i cannot impress more disappointment as i started too feel devs learned lessen and will never happen again to nerf so much some hero /or/end change it completely after hero is so long in game
It is a hero that is almost useless now. If your playing style is using lots of healers even then Garten isn’t even top5 healers in the game.
Garten was versatile hero and fun to use, but not even close to OP hero. He was strong and versatile, but changes made him completelty different hero.
They can lower his counterattack from 115% to 100% or even 90%, but they cannot remove it completely.
If their “data” tells that Garten is way too op, they should study how many used dispeller against him, was he a problem when paured whit nautica etc… Nautica is far more OP than this guy and Garten chamge doesent help Nautica being way too OP
The problem winning this days are defeating teams with 3,5-4.5k health! I didn’t invest all that mats in garten just to have a little overheal with a laughable 1 turn of soft skin to allies and a insignificant damage of 700 to all from 4k that meta defenses have now!that counter attack was everything!
I put him up to 90 because of his special. I would’ve picked someone else if he was how he is now. I can understand lowering the counterattack percentage but removing it was crazy!
I would’ve at least taken an aether reset token. This may be a good thing actually because I will only buy the POV from now on, saving me a lot of money for better things.
The counter attack is what made him worth having i was so happy when i pulled him im a f2p player so i put everything i had towards him now he has become a medicore health booster we didnt need bring back the counter attack.
I already expressed my disgust with this change and that they’re trying to sell it as a buff. As of this morning purchases are disabled in my account. That’s the only thing they care about . They will never get another penny from me.
Btw the screen free if offers and pop-ups. Love it! Here’s to you Zynga, raising my glass and middle finger
I don’t want a reset token. I built my defense around him. I already have a overhelaer. I already have someone who gives me immunity against status effects. I do not have a dozen heroes which I can just add. I spent money to get this hero and spent money to bring him to 85 with the mechanics he had in the past.
Now if you go and change the whole mechanic of a hero (hero that does dmg → hero that heals), it means that all the time and money I spent was for a hero I would never leveled in the first place.
If he was too strong, then nerf him. But don’t make him a complete different hero. This is ridiculous what SG is doing here. It’s now two days and I have not seen any(!) response from the developers explaining the reasons for this change.
I understand that his entire special was changed and that’s out of order when it’s for the worst but can we also get this poll and amount of feedback for the likes of Timothy and Xiong Shanjun who are ridiculously bad and underpowered? lol
He’s a completely new hero and one I wouldn’t have chased. I even did the unthinkable, trying to get some use out of him and leveled him to 25 emblems lol. Well that was dumb and those golden emblems are not coming back.
How is it the least bit ethical to completely change a hero. That is not a balance update, as your support called it. It’s unethical and inexcusable. I wouldn’t even think that is an option. Even if you don’t have him, everyone should be aware and cautious that this was even considered and what that means for anyone of your heros you own or will pull
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