⚖ Hero Balance Discussion: Costumed Guardian Panther

Nope, dont agree. She stands out far above her costumed and non costumed challenge event peers

Let’s say we can agree to disagree. Best of luck on your future summons of course!

She is very powerful, but I’d say much more so on offence than defence. She is great against titans, or paired with other purples on a raid (or in legendary challenge festival!). SGG don’t tend to nerf OP attackers, so I would honestly be surprised if she got a nerf.

I just had a look at the current top 50 defences. She is only on 5. Only 1 in the top 20. With some very crude assumptions, that means top players are facing her about 1 in every 10 raids. That doesn’t seem to break the variety of defences you play against. That again tends to be one of SGG’s reasons for nerfing. So I’d be surprised if she gets nerfed on that basis too.

They also base nerfs on their ‘metrics’, which of course I have no idea what they look like for her right now. So it is possible they will produce some of those and decide to balance her, but I suspect they won’t.

I’m sure we’ll know in the next few days…

That was my point.

Happy gaming

And don’t forget they work even with mindless attack (Alfrike) too

Her special is exceptionally strong, there’s no doubt about it. Just look at C-Lepus by comparison. Fast, same damage, but a drawback because it’s recognized that his special is strong. Sobek, also comparable, G-Panther does much more. Onyx’s special also comparable, but look at the number of tiles required to hit that third tier.

OP is OP. People justifying her strength because she’s not a defensive hero is a poor argument. And if the game is headed in the direction of even more powerful heroes than G-Panther, we should all ask Zynga to cool their jets because unless you’re dumping tons of money on new heroes and costumes, the power creep will destroy the foundation of the game.

G-Panther is OP and I hate that they released her this strong. The bait and switch has to stop because nerfing heroes after release should not be common practice.


Exactly. I’ve been saying this for weeks now.

The S5 passives/bonuses are incredibly strong. If Sobek goes off and his passive triggers, he’ll do how much damage? 360%, plus another 350+ sand damage? Then if you hit him, there’s also a chance of taking 100+ more sand damage and getting -30% accuracy. Or the other family bonus which has a chance to apply -24% mana reduction to the entire enemy team along with another 70% damage?

These heroes are strong to begin with but their passives make them a nightmare to face. I don’t think they need a nerf, but I think it’s fair to use them as a comparison here when people say “C Panther is OP!”

C Guardian Panther has no passive and her family bonus is irrelevant. All she is, is a 9-tile offensive hero, and she doesn’t do anything that Anton, Killhare, Onyx, and others already do, except doing it a bit more efficiently by combining the elemental defense down with damage. Let alone a 6-tile team consisting of Khepri, Anton, C Kageburado, and others who will kill the entire team at very fast speed. C Panther is strong, but doesn’t shake up the defense meta and will not change anything on offense either.