this is a game stop compere it to casino because im not getting my money back X1000 times if i win, online game should give you enjoyment when you pay for it or it will be counted as steal only. and i donno why the topic reached this point now you were saying you are tired of the people complain and complaining about their complains and i simply telling you they have the right to express their anger the way they want, they are who is letting you playing this game for free, without payer there will be no game for you to play⌠clear now ?
I think @buitenbeentjes was merely offering you counsel as to how you might be a happier person, because you seem genuinely unhappy, and the amount of money you are spending on this game seems to be a cause. No reason to get upset about it.
if you want to compare that please do compare someone who started with me 4 t o5 month ago and show me who can beat me then and only then please come to me and say this game is not pay to win now when you grow up a lil maybe i will have another conversation with you
So now your claim is not that the game is âplay to winâ, but that it is âpay to catch upâ, right? And youâre still being victimised by players who have spent nothing, but have been playing for longer than you? And that the desire to catch up is what is making you spend sums of money that make you grumpy enough to come here and complain?
Who, except you, is unhappy about this? If it bothers you, why not just stop spending? If it doesnât bother you, then what are you complaining about?
can you stop saying things i didnt say ? you are saying the game is not pay 2 win and im say it is as i started the game 5 month ago and passed the f2p who has been here for year + how on earth the game is not pay 2 win when you can get everything with money, the only diff this game got other than other pay 2 win games is⌠it require more money thats all
and when i complain i complain about how much money this game is asking people to pay im not complaining because its f2w lol
You have stated very clearly that you have spent a considerable sum of money and yet you are still not winning. I assumed (reasonably, I think) that you were making the case for âpay to catch upâ, otherwise it seems like you might be making the case that you are paying to lose. If thatâs the case then Iâm sorry I misinterpreted you, I sympathise, but I still donât understand why you would continue to pay in those circumstances.
If, on the other hand, you seriously want to make the case that the game is pay to win, then specifying your own extensive spending and explaining that you are still not competitive probably isnât the best way to go about it. It is especially not the best way to make your case when F2P players are so far ahead of you.
You should definitely spend much, much more. If you bought your way to a top tier team, ranked number one a few times, maybe won a couple of events, then you might be qualified to speak about how much success money has bought you. Until then, you just seem a bit⌠underwhelming.
im not gonna argue more with you⌠you clearly say things from your mind and stick it to me as i said it lol the post is here ppl can read what i said and i hope you get more supporters that agree with you that the game is not already pay 2 win, one of my friends just started the game 2 month ago you will see his name real soon on top 10, ânot pay 2 win lol this is funnyâ im out oif here
Go in peace. Your contributions to the forum are always welcome. Your contributions to SGâs coffers - funding the game for the rest of us - are especially welcome.
thank you thats what i wanted to hear
You are changing the topic and missing the point, sir @Fantastic.
The question that I put up in this thread is not if this game is pay to win or not. There are other threads about that, so thereâs no need to have another.
The question that I am seeking an answer to, is:
Are you more entertained by the game because you paid for it? Or does paying for the game make you and other paying players just complain more and and feel less happy about the game.
let me ask you something then maybe you will understand, if a supermarket gave you a box of fruits for free and you found 1 apple spoiled you will complain ? or you will throw it away and enjoy the rest that you got for free, now if a customer bought that box of fruit and found a spoiled apple in it you will get angry if you see him next day complaining ? how on earth you compare this to that ? the people who pay have the right to complain about the things they are paying for and you have the right as a free player to complain when you play for months and get nothing in return.
in every game there is 2 type of players f2p and p2p both will reach the same point but one will get there much faster which is fair as they pay real money. but when the game start to ask people crazy amount of money to reach there then there is problem with the system.
again when i pay i expect to get the service im paying for, which is in the games world is fun and enjoyment ⌠when some people spend 1000,s and get nothing in return but stress and sadness what you expect them to do shut up and pay more ? or just shut up and quit the game and leave that 1000,s he/she paid ?
what you are asking here? you just want to take away the only way to get that anger away from their chests ?
Two HOTM of 22. Is that âmanyâ? I donât think so - I could calculate the odds but I have a cocktail in one hand and donât want to try to work a calculator in the other, (Hereâs a methodology outline: how many epic tokens a month do we expect, how many months have I been playing, whatâs the chance of a HOTM for each token.)
The remainder all come from TC20. Juuuust grinding.
If you think this is anything other than randomness then you understand nothing about how randomness works. Donât worry - thatâs cool. Lots of people believe in ghosts. Some people even think they see them.
But if you come here to complain that ghosts are eating your sandwiches, donât expect to be taken seriously. Youâre being very silly and it is very funny.
Then maybe those same complaining players can go and play âmost other RNG gamesâ then? Its not done in E&P simply because SG donât want to. Everyone knows this, yet a vocal minority continue to rail against the system.
BoringâŚ
I would expect them to be smart and quit. I detect that you have not, and I suspect that you will not.
E&P is a hugely successful game generating a lot of revenue. I think players like you are the reason why.
if thats how you fix things then maybe you should just ask everyone to leave and play alone ? if something need to fix we cant say fix it we just leave that simple. and may i ask who are you to tell anyone to leave or stay ?
what is boring is people who try to defend the system because it suits them only no one care about what others think, its same as you get too op hero and when ppl complain about it you just tell them quit the game you got no right to complain im enjoying my hero
why you replying to me again now ?
Nothing needs to be fixed. The system works perfectly - a bunch of players pay little or nothing and a small number pay very large amounts. If you donât like it, find a different game. Otherwise, stay - we love players like you.
Always remember too that the players get EXACTLY what they paid for: gems. How the gems are implemented into the game is irrelevant, the paying player had still received the stated purchase.
Because thatâs how the forum works. You post your thoughts and other people reply to them if they want to. Youâre not DMing anyone. (You didnât think you were DMing someone, did you? Youâre not.)