Gryph, Doc - Can I get your advice?

[Gryphonknight]

Subject

F2P Roster- Scarlett and Mother North ( together they fight crime )

Legendary training and RNG paywall

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@Griezella

I had two running to get me Wu

There is a long complicated math explanation involving - time to level your base, hero XP, gold Epic hero tokens, recruits, food and the nature of RNG ( specifically a non modified flat RNG ) - that explains why running 2 to 4 Legendary training to get Wu Kong - or in your case Rigard - may still not help a player.

But just pretend I gave it to you and all the lurking users understood it.

The Devs promised Hero Academy as a band aid solution and a better, actual solution in the works ( to be fair it is a tricky solution for an MMO ).

Scarlett

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Scarlett is not as good as Gormek in isolation, but you are building a war roster and a team roster and your team will contain Wu Kong.

@Gryphonknight

Scarlett- High attack stat for high board damage- Fast mana- 6 turn debuff enemy attack stat so do less damage to keep Wu Kong, and team, alive.
similar role- Skittleskull/ Kiril

@Gryphonknight

Rogue

Scarlett- Red 4*, fast mana speed, Splash damage, enemy attack debuffer, compliments entire team of glass cannons that are the foundation of Cascade Squad.

Scarlett- Rogue- Perfect fit for the most attack heavy, least defense stat, hero among the Cascade Squad.

Note: I will most like level to Rogue 4*+1 Scarlett then Guardian Jackal then Peters to before leveling Scarlett from 4*+1 to 4*+19. Jackal is such a glass cannon that Evade 4% will help keep him alive. Evade 4% is such an awesome first class node, no reason not to give it to Peters.

@Gryphonknight

Does a Talent improve the hero’s role?

For me, it is situational.

I like Rogue Scarlett 4*+15 because her job is to keep Wu Kong alive in the Wu Kong Cascade squad and increase match/ board/ physical damage ( she is a red 4* glass cannon ). The Evade skill improves her usefulness in that role.

Fighter Boldtusk 4*+15 is handy because if he Revives you can use a Miracle scroll to revive the team then a mana item to heal them.

. . .

Druid Melendor 4*+15 is nice since Melendor is a green 4* glass cannon ( see Scarlett above ) minions act as bonus HP when Rigard heals him from the damage that created the thorn minions.

Monk Wu Kong 4*+15 helps him resist anti-mana specials like Little John, Proteus, etc.

. . .

Top 3

Of the ones I have seen so far, Cleric Rigard 4*+15, Rogue Scarlett 4*+15, Sorcerer Ameonna 4*+15.

Honorable mention ( I do not have her ) to Fighter Delilah 5*+15.

Gormek

For emblems Gormek Falls behinds Tiburtus due to Pierce and Grimm because Cascade squad needs a blue and Grimm’s base stats at 4* 3.60 and 4* 4.70 help a lot for Barbarian Quests ( I run a Grimm 4*+8 and a second 4* 3.60 ).

I use my Gormek fine at 4* 3.60 for strong matching damage versus green, is 50% of the hero XP of 4* 4.70 and only requires 1* / 2* ascension items.

Evelyn

There is no green Ramming Pulverizer / Athena’s Bow. After Guardian Panther + Tiburtus was introduced it became a killer combo. This is why Frida is average mana speed and Devs are slow to replace Guardian Falcon with a 5* version.

Green 4* heroes really lack hitters. So Evelyn is not as useful until you have at least two more good green 5* heroes. But at 5* 2.60 Evelyn is better than a green 3* 3.50 and only uses 1* / 2* ascension items.

Tarlak

You are short on Fine Gloves and a little thin on your 4* roster for my taste. Wu Kong 4* 4.70 will serve you better for a set of Fine Gloves and the Hero XP of Tarlak at 5* 3.70 and 47% the Hero XP of Tarlak at 5* 4.80 - at least for now.

People always wanted a different color Wu Kong and a 5* Wu Kong so you will eventually level Tarlak. I have a lot of 5* heroes waiting for their time but I do not have the hero XP - this is a big consideration, - ascension items and roster support to do it now.

Mother North

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Mother North, Alberich, Delilah, Joon, Natalya, are some heroes that work fine at 5* 3.70 because of their special skills. They work better at 5* 4.80 or 5*+19 but fine at 5* 3.70 . When at 5* 3.70 they need a decent roster of 4* heroes to support them.

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@Gryphonknight

5* 2.60 and 3.70

5* 2.60 is generally weaker than 4* 3.60 .

5* 3.70 is generally weaker than 4* 4.70 .

The Devs have said this is by design.

5* 3.70 Exceptions

There are several exceptions- Alberich, Joon, Natalya and several others- are all very powerful at 5* 2.60 and 5* 3.70.

These are usually heroes with specials that do not do damage ( revive, heal over time, mana over time ) have a very powerful secondary effect ( 6 turn blind, non dispellable DOT, non dispellable debuff, zero initial damage with 100% DOT to bypass reflect damage and high defense stat ) or have powerful secondary effect not found in 4* Heroes ( Crush of Hel until Scar of the Depths was added ).

5* 3.70 follow the rule

There are many heroes that 5* 3.70 are worse than a similar 4* 4.70 hero- Lianna, Horghall, Sartana, Quintus, Marjana, Azlar, and many others.

Example

5* 3.70 Marjana is weaker than 4* 4.70 Kelile.

These are usually heroes with specials that are pure damage, partial damage and partial DOT, or a slow mana speed version of a 4* heroes fast mana speed, or average mana speed, special ability

Miracle Scrolls

The early game is all about completing rare quests, Class quests and challenge event’s tier completion rewards to get emblems and 3* ascension items ( and 4* if you can).

Miracle scrolls suck. Revive scrolls are not much better.

However, if you have Mother North and a decent anchor hero - stays alive so you can still do matching damage ( like Boldtusk 4*+1 or Ameonna 4* 3.60 ) - they can use a Revive scroll ( you can carry 3 ) on Mother North then a mana item on Mother North to revive your other 3 heroes.

Minions!

@Gryphonknight

There are currently three types of healers. Immediate healing, Heal Over Time ( HOT ), and minions ( minions increase a hero’s HP while their attack is only good for clearing split mobs with 1 HP each ). Immediate healing does nothing for 100% HP, undamaged, heroes, but helps heavily damaged heroes the most. HOT does not stack, but helps heavily damage, and soon to be damaged, heroes the most. Minions can increase a hero’s HP above his 100% HP and heals undamaged and damaged heroes the same. New minions also replace damaged minions “healing” any hero without three full HP minions.

Many 5* heroes are HOT, ( I think Kerridoc pointed this out ), so they don’t stack. Tarlak and Alberich’s HOT would overwrite each other. Delilah has both an immediate heal and minions, so she stacks with a HOT hero like Alberich or Tarlak. Even better, Alberich generates mana for Delilah’s special skill and revives dead heros.

And % Heal is more powerful with X*+19 heroes, especially 4* / 5* heros.