Gems . Keep them? Atlantis vs Guardians

Then yea i would either spend the coins in this atlantis or continue stocking for next atlantis(probably next to be honest)

Next months atlantis featured past hotm and january hotm are better than this month’s too if u wanted to keep stockin up

Natalya onatel grimble = december
Kunchen zeline vela = January

Not sayin you have a good chance at any of the 3 in either month but if you’re goin to take a gamble, might as well take the one with the best possible rewards

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I plan on keep pulling in Atlantis until I get Wilbur (already got 3 Proteus).

After I get Wilbur I will redirect my gems to Guardian.

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Get enough gems for the 30x summon. It’s totally okay to purchase gems. You don’t have to swear on the bible that your’e F2P😂 You can always be a
“pay once in a while” 2P

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I cant spend that money Bro .
Ty anyways

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Don’t spend anything more than you’re willing to lose

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I’m going to be the outlier and say to go for guardians.

Between jackal and falcon, you have two of the 5 elemental down heroes.

Both are killer in their colours and are very handy in titans and across the board generally.

Atlantis yes you have the chance at Wilbur and Proteus but statistically you’ve got a better chance of picking up one (if not both) of jackal and falcon then getting EITHER of Proteus and Wilbur.

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Yeah . You have put some nice cards over the table.
I will analyze all the options
If only this hotm would be better i would do the pull 100%

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6 actually. You forgot KA, I guess :slightly_smiling_face:

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Poor KA… Replaced by a polar bear

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Similar situation, I’m going for Guardians. They have the most unique of the useful skills. Wilbur and Proteus are great but you can replace or cover for most of what they give you. Jackal and Falcon are simply the only ones who bring elemental defense down in their colors. Sure eventually they will release 5 star yellow and red def down, but Jackal and Falcon will still be the only 4 stars that do it which will always have plenty of value

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Little bit of maths:

Portal Odds:

Guardians portal
You have a 5.7% chance of summoning EITHER guardian Jackal or falcon.

Atlantis portal
You have a 14.6% chance of summoning one of the 9x 4* season 2 heroes.
Translates to 3.24% chance of summoning EITHER Wilbur or Proteus.

One desired hero

In terms of the odds of getting one of the desired heroes in a 10x pull:
Guardians: 44.39% chance of getting either falcon OR jackal
Atlantis: 27.76% chance of getting either Proteus OR Wilbur.

Both Desired Heroes

In terms of getting Both the desired heroes on a 10x pull:
Guardians: 5.8% chance of getting BOTH jackal & Falcon
Atlantis: 2.1% chance of getting BOTH wilbur & proteus

Edit:
Thanks @DracoLovesRi for a correction to the “Get Both” heroes maths.

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Guardians: 25.11% chance of getting BOTH jackal and falcon
Atlantis: 15.07% chance of getting BOTH Wilbur and Proteus
(Note I’m not as confident with this math… Statistics isn’t my strongest math suite…)

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Was referring to colour more than specific heroes. Typo coming out on mobile.

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I didn’t criticize you :blush:

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I agree.

Boldtusk+ Falcon+ Gormek ( later Wilbur) is a nasty 3x strong / 3x neutral stack.

After 2+ years, most of my accounts STILL do not have falcon, though one account has 4x Wilbur and 4x Proteus ( including 2x leveled Proteus).

1x or 2x Jackal would just be a bonus.

2x Jackal ( or 2x Valeria from Halloween) work very well on the same team.

Notes

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Basic Color stacking

Color stacking

Color stacking, Empires hidden buff

Neutral color stacking

Red 4* heroes

Jackal and Falcon on defense

4* limited time heroes

(Best event to spend gems on - #11 by Gryphonknight)

IAP

Jackal versus Falcon

This is an old post ( before buddy) but still useful.

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Well, that’s a good question, really enjoyed the insight.
I really dont like the guardians event (I dont know why), but between santa/mother north/grimble/atlantis heroes, I going to save my gems for Guardians…

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… are you trying to make all us other FTP hate you, what luck! Get yourself some elemental debuffers, you’ll probably end up with all three :wink:

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Get both in Guardians off 10: 5.8%
In Atlantis: 2.1%

Added: Guardians. C^10_2 * 0.943^8 * 0.057^2 * (1-1/4-1/4) +
C^10_3 * 0.943^7 * 0.057^3 * (1-1/8-1/8) + …

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Care to share the math? I don’t think I properly eliminated the possibility of option a after it was successful

I think J essentially calculated the odds of getting two desired heroes (non specific) off the 10x rolls…

This

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The master analyzer

Have you done an analysis/comparison between how many atlantis coins one can farm vs how many event coins one can farm and which of the 2 is easier supplemented with gems instead of coins?

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