Gargon´s guide to Fated Summon 5

Fated Summons round 5.

First of all: This is by far the best FS selection we have ever had, of course this should be true every time as we get newer heroes every time. But this time it´s really a big step up from last time.

A little overview over which groups of heroes are currently in the rotation (if you only want hero pick recommendations, feel free to scroll down). And as always, no costumes included.
Hotm: Obviously they will never run out, as they produce 12 per year and only offer 10 in FS, so on average the hotm row grows 1 month older every iteration (in comparison to the current heroes).
CF1 heroes: This is round 3 of 5 in an interesting group. Very old heroes, but some great and timeless functionalities there like still to come are Lady of the Lake and Chameleon in the next 2 rounds, while Black Knight is possible, but not guaranteed.
The seasonal event heroes: Round 2 of 2(?). We will see what new group will be substituted in for them. Maybe CF2? Or they run 1 more round of seasonal heroes including some newer ones.
The end of S1 heroes brings us Season 4: Round 1 of 4. The newest heroes we have ever seen in FS, so as a general rule the heroes in this group will always be among the more interesting ones.

As always
This is a feature mostly designed for people that spend little to no money at all, as all the heroes on this list are badly outdated and will not stand up against a team of current heroes. Still a few heroes can be useful to many players especially some niche heroes.
If you have costumes of of any of the heroes on this list, picking a duplicate may be the best thing to do as you at least get a hero with better stats than what is on offer otherwise.

So lets get to the individual heroes:
Again as always: Damage heroes age faster and these heroes here are among the oldest heroes in the game, so if in doubt skip the damage heroes and go for functionality and healers instead, for a better value hero.

Hotm: A rather bad selection this time, the 2018 family is not nearly as powerful as 2017 compared to last time, but 1 nice hero.
Natalya: A rather bad hero, but not the worst we´ve seen.
Zeline: Attack down and dispel is interesting, but there is no more damage to speak of, so definitely not a top pick. Also this is the first hero that shows up in FS for he second time. SG quality control at it usual top level :smiley: The bloody fools can´t even be bothered to read through 4 old lists to see which ones have been there before.
Alasie: A very outdated damage hero, not interesting.
Delilah: A good class a, a decent heal with bonus minions, makes a rather good package! Definitely the best in the hotm group.
Aeron: A very bad pick.

CF1: Two extra strong choices this time!

Guardian Kong: Since red is a bad color Kong is not the worst choice, cleanse is interesting on a damage hero, but the damage itself is not worth much.
The Hatter: Definitely one of the most interesting heroes this time. Buff stealing is an amazing functionality that is very rare in this game!

Alice: Same as Alasie above, an outdated damage dealer.

Guardian Gazelle: Another absolute top quality choice! A good protection for the team against ailments and damage as well as the gigantic attack boost for both special skills in PvP and tiles against titans!
Boss Wolf: Worst CF1 hero. Very slow speed for nothing interesting.

Seasonal event heroes: A few interesting options and a top pick.

Vanda: Very fast ailment protection is great, plus steals healing. Definitely way better than all the red options in FS4.

Francine: Another hitter with cleanse, but with the same problem as the Gorilla, too low damage.

Krampus: Top class hero! Taunt is an extremely powerful skill!
Roc: Another cleanse on damage hero, but not much there alltogether. And there I was thinking this is rare lol.
Killhare: Used to be a top notch tank a longtime ago :slight_smile: If someone needs a purple tank, then this one is the best in FS5, if someone needs/wants damage heroes, this one might be the best of the older 3 groups of heroes.

Season 4: Newest group we´ve ever had, so if in doubt, pick one of these heroes. Of course this being in theory the strongest group we´ve ever had in FS, SG tried to pick rather the weakest possible options. So this time we get a lot of heroes with better than usual stats, but not especially exciting abilities (with 1 exception).
Captain Nemo: Not an amazing ability, but see above. A sniper with decent stats and better than usual damage for FS heroes.
Garjammal: See Nemo above, same in green.

Passepartout: Good class and good healer, especially good for defense. Solid choice.
Akkorog: Solid choice for hit-3. Especially good on defense. Probably best damage hero in FS5.
Lepiota: Very surprised to see her on the first round of S4 on the FS. Would have expected Hannah or Moreau, but instead we got an absolute MVP candidate! Amazing and timeless functionality. If there is a real monster on the defense in front of you, well make it go away :slight_smile: at fast speed. Yes, thank you very much…

So as a summary:

Top picks:
Lepiota, Krampus, The Hatter and Guardian Gazelle.

All 4 have amazing functionality and depending on each players needs one or another of them will be the top pick. One cannot go wrong with any of them!

For people that really want a red hero: Captain Nemo or Vanda are OK options.
For people that want healers: Passepartout is probably the best healer, but Delilah is also OK.
For people that want damage: Akkorog (hit-3), Killhare (hit-all), Garjammal (sniper), Captain Nemo (sniper).

Have fun with your shiny old toys! May they serve you well!

EDIT: Changed the pic to the actual ingame version and added Vanda as alternative to Nemo (Blame @BobTheSnark for that one!)

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This is a good summary. Matches a lot of my initial reaction.

I’m not in as much agreement here. The current one has revivers (something most folks want), Athena (amazing defense down), and guardian panther (EDD at fast).
But as creep increases the old heroes are relatively worse. I plan to take krampus but I’m not confident how often I’d actually use him.

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Good breakdown, though it should be stressed in large letters that

GUARDIAN KONG’S DEFENCE IS ONLY 595 AT LV 80 WITHOUT COSTUME

Keep up the good work.

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I can see that if you like revivers, you had a few more options, I don´t, so for me it was only Athena and Panther really. And with the stats as they are both only serve as titan heroes and are far too weak for PvP. I wouldn´t have maxed either of them if I didn´t have the costumes (thank you SE!).
Anyway the big difference is that for the first time we have heroes with semi-decent stats, so that adds 5 potential choices. First time I can “recommend” options for people that need damage, simply based on stats and damage percent. Obviously nothing even close to meta, but for FTPs I think that can be an option for the first time.

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I agree with this list, though obviously all of them are way behind in stats without their respective costumes. Still I’m considering leveling up Lepiota just for war cleanups involving pesky healers. You never have enough mana control.

Maybe, though I doubt that most of the selections are as powerful/useful relative to current heroes, as previous FS options were powerful/useful relative to heroes otherwise available in their times.

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Since power creep is accelerating, that is more or less guranteed. It may be a zig zag line, but it´s definitely a zigzag line going downwards. 2 years ago when FS started power creep wasn´t nearly as big as it is now, so the first round of FS was most definitely the closest to current heroes, it will be forever Nr.1 in those terms, unless SG goes for a major overhaul of FS (which I do not believe will ever happen).

So basically the way it goes is, we get better heroes every time that are farther behind current heroes every time :smiley:

But since this feature is a FTP feature I would say “current” simply doesn´t matter at all. And FTP hardly cares how far behind the meta they are. They mostly play other FTPs anyway, so your heroes matter, not the heroes you don´t have.
If you are a FTP trying to play in P2P world, well good luck :smiley: But I would agree, in that case FS is getting worse every 6 month. Just like your roster is getting worse every week/day.

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Gargondge could you please clarify what BK and LOTL is?
thank yous sorry

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Black knight
Lady of the lake

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Oh haha I was thinking about something completely different. Thank youssssss

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I guess I should stop using abbreviations again…

no you use them I’m just dumb ok

lol if you are, so is everybody else, I just tend to forget not everybody is a nerd…
I bet 99% of people playing this game wouldn´t know who or what LotL is, the problem is that 99% of the people I talk to are in the other 1% of people.

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Gargon, good summary except for Akkorag who was a nightmare and I’ve taken him to SE ages ago.
Lepiota i have, but never used that much, but i might have been wrong. If i can afford it, she’ll get her emblems back.
Delilah is not my go-to hero (that job has been taken by Cleopatra), but she’s still a solid healer - even without costume.
Lsst time i ended up with 17/20 , this time i want to go back to 8 max. Genuinely looking forward to Gazelle and Hatter who always escaped me and i think Passepartout is also interesting, maybe even Garjammal for a hitter, maybe. Krampus…Queen Anne and Ludwig are enough. Most likely most will go to SE. Shiny old heroes would be a lot better with decent stats. Come on, SG…

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I think Krampus is still decent enough for FTP. I have mine at LB1 with 20 emblems on def health path. Will choose Gazelle first with my counter being at 100 already. Lepiota could be second.

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Mine is even LB :smiley: But I don´t use him anymore. I never liked him on offense, because he doesn´t synergize well with other hit-3s, but he was on my def team for a very long time, because the raw numbers made him good for that and all the bad things about him don´t matter on defense, some are even a bonus on defense (the shuffle effect).

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Lol, yes, that’s true. On offense though, every time i took him, i regretted it.

Great read and I don’t think I could argue with any of the top picks…. but I might like to add a few notes on reds.

First, I’m a little confused about the final recommendation of Nemo over Vanda, given the well justified pro-Vanda descriptive text. It’s true the S4 heroes have bigger stats than other choices — but Nemo is pretty much pure damage.

I suppose I’d argue that FS damage heroes are arguably less than ideal to take not just because they are “outmoded” in a general sense, but more specifically because it’s possible that some 4* damage is at least comparable (and easier to ascend, emblem, limit break, etc — and can be used in 4* contexts like Challenge events and 4* tourneys to boot)

Compare, for example:

  • Nemo, 4/80: 821/751/1334, 300%/600% damage

  • toon!Kelile, 4/80: 815/760/1166, 325% damage (more vs green) plus burn DoT plus Toon immunities

Nemo is arguably a bit bigger… but given 4* Toon snipers are not out of reach for F2P/VC2P, it might seem that taking a hard-to-get ability might be a better pick for most folks.

For Guardian Kong… er…

Yeah, that.

Obviously, Kong’s defense could be built up somewhat with investment but that is a terrible base defense to start from. Arguably, if one wants a cleansing non-healer, even one costume on Sonya or Caedmon might be preferable?

Vanda, on the other hand, brings some very nice functionality indeed, and at Very Fast to boot. Ailment blocking (much less heal-stealing) is a Big Deal, especially for someone who doesn’t already have it.

She does need to be well timed, given her status effects are so short, but recharging generally in 6 red tiles helps and stealing healing potentially helps somewhat with her fragility against more recent heroes.

—It is curious that other Very Fast ailment blockers happen to exist in red, e.g. Grazul and Emilio, but for anyone whose roster is lacking in this ability at all, much less VF reds, Vanda seems a significantly useful choice.

Natalya… is kinda a dark horse, in my opinion.

A lot of folks write her off but she can be tactically useful — her DoT damage, and perhaps even more importantly, her big mana gen debuff are uncleansable. I’ve argued for her in more detail on the main FS thread, but if nothing else I’ve found her actually quite useful in aiding war-cleanup hits… and let’s face it, for a player who is significantly growing roster from FS, doing cleanups in war is not an unlikely niche.

I’m not saying it moves her into the forefront of this FS, but… for someone looking for red, it’s worth not just passing right over her. (If nothing else, sans costumes, I’d argue she’s possibly held her value better than the once-mighty Gravemaker….)

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Ahhhh…that would be so nice if it only were true! :slight_smile:

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i went for gazelle, no doubt. already have hatter and lepiota, next is kilhare