You can probably add that almost any non TC hero (atlantis, event, seasonal, hotm) is worth leveling, if you’ve got the chance to get them.
Especially almost all Atlantis 3* and 4* are huge compared to TC
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A recent post I made in another thread:
So here’s my odd, personal definition of an A 4* – it a 4* I use with some frequency in wars or titan hits. I don’t have 30 maxed 5*, so using some is a necessity. My list of “A” 4* heroes is:
- Wu Kong [omiited in error]]
- Grimm
- Merlin
- Hansel
- Jackal
- Falcon
- Boldtusk
- Wilbur
- Kiril
- Rigard
- Proteus
- Gafar
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I can’t pick one, so three it is. Hansel, Proteus and Wilber. These three carried me once i got them. Very useful in tough events/raids, that at the time, were way over my team power or even abilities.
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Bah. That does it… I guess I’m saving this months gems all for Atlantis.
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For me it has to be Wu. After I maxed him the game became fun. I was able to take out full 5 * teams in raids, and my titan damage increased.
To date I still use him on titans even on 12*
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Love this topic!
Before I write my list, I want to give some background for the sake of credibility (and I suppose I don’t mind bragging a little, haha!): I’ve been playing for nearly a year, I’ve maxed all my buildings, and I’ve got a pretty deep roster of maxed 4* and 5* heroes at this point. It took a lot of patience (and money, particularly for the 5* heroes) to get to this point. Along the way I learned that it’s most certainly possible to compete (*see definition of “compete” below) with the big spenders, even if you’re not one, as long as you’re willing to farm/grind, and as long as you use your scarcest resources (read: non-farmable ascension materials) wisely. To that end, I hope to be able to help the next generation of F2P players (among which I include myself, as I have a second account which I don’t spend money on, other than the VIP Pass, which is by FAR the best value in the game) with the following thoughts.
First, I’ll give a quick list of my top picks for each color: Rigard, Wu Kong, Kiril, Hansel, and Wilbur.
Here are thoughts on the Training Camp heroes:
Dark:
- Must max: Rigard, Sabina, Tiburtus. Rigard’s ability to dispel ailments from your own heroes is invaluable, in particular. Sabina is the perfect antidote to Riposte heroes. Tiburtus is a staple against yellow titans, and is a good general purpose attacker in raids/wars.
- Other: Cyprian. I dunno. I’ve never been a big fan of Perfect Riposte heroes, myself. They can help you “punch up” against stronger foes (both in raids/wars, and on the map), but I don’t like the fact that you have to let your enemy hit you for this special to be effective (not to mention, they usually get some hits in before you’re able to fully charge in the first place).
Holy:
- Must max: WU KONG! Indispensable against titans of all colors. Also useful for “punching up” against stronger enemies on the map and in raids/wars.
- Other: Li Xiu isn’t a bad defense team hero. Chao can be useful as an attacker since he’s fast mana. Hu Tao just stinks.
Ice:
- Must max: Kiril, Grimm, Sonya. Pretty self-explanatory, I think.
- Other: Boril. See my comments on Cyprian above.
Nature:
- Must max: Caedmon, Melendor. Also pretty self-explanatory, I think.
- Other: Skittleskull, Little John, Kashhrek. Slow mana heroes just don’t play well in too many situations. Kash is a pretty good tank in the Platinum raid arena, but becomes completely worthless beyond that, and is not a good attacking hero in any scenario.
Fire:
- Must max: Boldtusk, Gormek. Self-explanatory. I’ll throw Scarlett in here too, even though I actually haven’t maxed her myself. I didn’t get her until I’d been playing for quite a while, by which point I had some good red 5* heroes to ascend instead. But her tile damage and ability to weaken enemy attacks are both very useful against green titans.
- Other: Kelile isn’t bad, I wouldn’t blame you for wanting to max her. It’s rare that I’d say not to max ANY fast mana hero, actually. But she’s not GREAT either. Colen is too squishy; since his special is slow too, he often gets killed before he can get it off.
And here are thoughts on the other 4*heroes:
Dark:
- Must max: Proteus. Any time you can prevent an enemy special from firing, that’s a big win.
- Good, but not a “must”: Merlin
- I have no idea, because I don’t own these heroes, or haven’t had a chance to feed them yet: Ameonna, Gaffar.
- Don’t bother: First Mate Boomer, Jabbar
Holy:
- Must max: Guardian Jackal is the key to big numbers on purple titans. Gretel is fantastic for “punching up” in raid attacks and wars, and also for big boss fights in events and on the map. Any time you can prevent an enemy special from firing, that’s a big win.
- Good, but not a “must”: None
- I have no idea, because I don’t own these heroes, or haven’t had a chance to feed them yet: Danzaburo
- Don’t bother: None
Ice:
- Must max: None
- Good, but not a “must”: Triton
- I have no idea, because I don’t own these heroes, or haven’t had a chance to feed them yet: Agwe
- Don’t bother: Valeria. (I maxed her. I regret it.)
Nature:
- Must max: Cabin Boy Peters, Hansel. Hansel is even better than Gretel for “punching up” in raid attacks and wars, and also for big boss fights in events and on the map. Any time you can prevent an enemy special from firing, that’s a big win. I don’t own Peters, but same premise. Also, shout out to OP here: He said “If you are totally new, a hero with extremely valuable special skill might seem totally worthless to you.” Well, that was me with Hansel. I pulled two early on, and fed one to whatever green I was leveling at the time. I didn’t understand how good his special is at first, and now deeply regret that decision. I would LOVE to have a second Hansel for wars.
- Good, but not a “must”: Gadeirus
- I have no idea, because I don’t own these heroes, or haven’t had a chance to feed them yet: Jack O’Hare
- Don’t bother: Gobbler
Fire:
- Must max: Wilbur. He’s the second key (after Wu Kong) to huge scores against titans of all colors. If you get him before Tiburtus/Grimm/Gormek, you may not need to max any of them at all. (They’re all still useful for stuff other than titans though, but their specials don’t stack with Wilbur’s, and his defense debuff on enemies is a higher % than theirs.) Also, Guardian Falcon is the key to even bigger numbers on green titans.
- Good, but not a “must”: Lancelot
- I have no idea, because I don’t own these heroes, or haven’t had a chance to feed them yet: Sumitomo
- Don’t bother: None
Hope this info is useful! Feel free to follow up with any questions, and I’ll be glad to answer as time permits.
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You forgot Gan Ju for the 3* holy’s.
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Wu missing out?..missing gamble I guess
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An oversight. Wu should have been #1.
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Wilbur should be #1 in my opinion. He’s an absolute game changer. You can slice through events with everyone at nearly full health, and he devastates enemies with his special when combined with heavy hitting heroes
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I’ve been struggling a bit with using him outside of titan battles (where he’s a no-brainer and easy to use). Normally, I like to kill all but one enemy in each wave, then use the empty space to charge all my specials before killing the last enemy and moving on to the next wave. With Wilbur, the enemies all tend to die at the same time, and then I’m going into the next wave without all my heroes charged up. Maybe I should just let go of my old strategy, and embrace this new Way of the Wil. Thoughts?
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Yup, that’s definitely the case. I tend to let his special charge, but I won’t activate it until the final round for the boss battle.
He’s absolutely amazing for rare titans…for instance, if you’re fighting a griffin or thunder unicorn and Wilbur’s special is active, you’ll dramatically lengthen the amount of time your heroes stay alive, especially when the titan special attack goes off
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I just noticed that in my post above, I said I was going to define “compete,” but then forgot to. Oops! So, what I meant was:
- Be able to win raids with some level of consistency (40%+?) against defense teams of 5* heroes
- Be able to complete the Legendary tiers of challenge events
- Be able to do substantial damage against 9*+ titans
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Ah, makes sense! I don’t know how I feel about carrying a hero through an entire level without planning to use his special until the boss wave. (Well, actually, I do! I feel “not great” about it! LOL.) But, if any hero has a special worthy of doing so, it’s certainly Wilbur.
Regardless of how one feels about using him on map levels, and in raids and wars, his value against titans alone makes him a must-have.
Personal anecdote: My alliance recently began killing 12* titans. I don’t know if we’ll do it regularly, but we have killed three of them in the past week. Two more escaped, and the other two we’ve fought this week have been 11*. But anyway, due in large part to having maxed Wilbur relatively recently, I achieved a new personal best titan hit, of just over 75k, against one of those 12* titans we took down. That’s right, my best ever titan hit came against the strongest level of titan in the game. Wilbur and Wu get the credit. (And Evelyn, Gregorion and Hansel - note that Evelyn and Gregrion are at 3/70; not maxed.
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Little John and Skittleskull hit my teams like trucks whenever I face maxed out versions of them in the arena! Owh
As for myself, things changed for me when I got Kashhrek! I’ve got him maxed out now, and he’s usually the last man alive on my team. I was reallyyyy feeling it when going at the last level of Season 1. Wu Kong has been amazing too at swinging battles around in my favour, though I find his gamble move a bit too risky in certain cases.
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Just have to throw in another nod for Proteus. He was my second purple 4* after Cyprian and I’ve never looked back. Proteus doesn’t negate just one special like Merlin, Hansel, and Gretel – he takes three out of the game. That’s all three bosses on the last level of monthly challenges, tank and both flanks during war or raids… it’s simply amazing.
I have a second one. He will get leveled sooner than later.
Other notes:
- Boldtusk really helped me early on. I know that Wilbur outshines him later, but having that heal and buff in a single package really helps.
- Buddy, if you have him, is pretty amazing. Mini-pulverizer plus minions? Yes please. He took over for Kashrek as my tank.
- Boril and Cyprian definitely have their places on low end teams. At a certain point, enemies are going to be hitting much, much harder than you can hit back. If you can make them hit themselves that’s a lot of free damage. Just keep them healed up. It’s not a long-term strategy but it helps punch up.
- Dovetailing on the above point, did you know that Proteus hits through defenses? Because he does no instant damage, you don’t have to be cautious around deflects. It also seems he’s not affected by defense. Quite a lot going for him there…
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I take Wilbur, but I don’t fire his special on the final wave before the bosses. Earlier waves, all bets are off.
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After reading, I’m feeling pretty good. I have Wokong, Wilber, Rigard, and Skittledude. Prolly only been playing 3 weeks and am still a little lost. Team power at 2235. Spent maybe $60 so far.
Farming the map for training swords sucks but I’m hanging in there. Thanks for all the great information.
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Nice starter set there! If you’re feeling a bit lost, you might want to read through:
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Gato is my only 3* . Fully ascended and working on maxing out . Am I wasting my time?
Thoughts? Advice?