For All The Old Players

FWIW, in that time frame the data I did enter had 169 Gold chests and 111 Diamond Chests. Both had around a 1% drop rate for 4* AM. Funny enough, I saw a slightly better rate in Gold, but the sample size is way too small to compare differences for such an infrequent occurrence.

Edit: Additionally, 104 monster chests yielded no 4* AM, but that’s to be expected imo. Rare chests and titan chests had the best drop rates for 4* AM among chests ( I did not get to the point where I entered war chests; there were a lot of entries between each war chest opening).

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Been playing since the end of Oct 2018, just as the Halloween event was wrapping up and Zimkitha wss soon to be the Hotm.

Can’t say I remember a whole lot. Mystic Vision had a longer wait time. Chests contents regarding 4* mats seem about the same, seldom. While there are more ways that should result in more opportunities, seems like it’s just more ways to be disappointed. Of course, results vary. However, I feel I’m where the game intends for me to be, so it may be appropriate as I do have x53 maxed legendaries in two years of playing (although I do buy all the offers that have mats, even in the store at 600 gems per chance) so I’m unwilling to give the game full RNG drop rate credit.

There was definitely far less to do and less offers when I started, which resulted in me farming the map way more than I do now. The game and content regarding events and such are much better now. Although, I did like the heroes much better before emblems.

Very much so, yes.

I do not particularly enjoy competitive PvP type games for the most part. So much hatred, trash talk, unnecessary bragging, quickly accelerating into territories of vulgarities and racial slurs and other such… ugh. No thank you.

One of the things I liked about E&P’s PvP system was that it wasn’t actual PvP. It’s still basically you against a computer. A human opponent may have picked and set the heroes for their defense, but ultimately, it’s the AI that you have to beat.

My reason for not liking raids is because my opponents always have crazy strong heroes, and I’m just praying that my boards are in a cooperative mood that day.

Oddly enough? I do like wars. Because unlike raids… if you manage to kill 4/5 of the enemy heroes in a war, you get points. If you only manage to kill 4/5 of the enemy heroes in a raid? You lose everything.

I don’t play video games for the glory of saying “hahaha I beat you, I’m better than you in a game, you suck, I’m the best! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

I won’t deny that it feels good to take out an opponents’ strong defense, but I don’t take it to mean that I’m better than them or anything. Most of the time, it just means that I got lucky, or I was able to find a kink in their armor that they maybe didn’t anticipate, etc.

But overall… no, I do not like raids, because I do not have access to all of the heroes that most of my opponents do. I know, that’s what makes them more “challenging”… but it’s also what makes them more annoying to me, personally.

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Sept 2018 here. I’d say the monster chests were better as mats seemed to flow better. Most times these days it’s a sick joke as to what comes out of filling a regular monster chest. A gem?? Really? Couldn’t swing some roots or something else? Profits must be taking a huge hit.

Same goes for elemental chests. Used to look forward to filling those to get the last 4* mat needed. Now, it’s laughable. 3 silver coins? Don’t hurt yourself handing those out alright? Wouldn’t want the player population having heart palpitations over a couple EHT’s now would we.

There were a couple seasonal events…Christmas was new and I don’t get why we have to kill off Jolly Old St. Nick and the rest of the gang. Couldn’t have come up with something better huh?

No emblems.

Weren’t even a glimmer in someone’s eyes. No nerfs that I recall until now where that darn nerf hammer is just swinging away looking for it’s next target.

There was a general understanding that if you put in the work you could grind your way to a point where you could compete with the spenders. Don’t even think about it now as that’s shot to high heck. Way to go there with the F2P crowd SG.

No Floating Abomination from hell hovering over your castle grounds. Ahh sweet freedom and the memories!

Sure mats are now “more plentiful” as in you can stay chained to your device, burning untold number of crafted items in the hopes you’ll place high enough to get a half decent loot from an event completion that doesn’t consist of a WE flask.

Beta testing generally rooted out any potential problems. Don’t have to tell you where that is now.

Content took a bit longer to get out but was generally in useable/good state not requiring constant updates.

Could go on but it falls on deaf ears around here as SG can do no wrong and the fanboys will all pop in saying I need to learn how to play, how its all in my mind, yada, yada, yada…

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BAHAHAHAHA! Best description of GB I’ve coming across!

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Demoralizing. Folks can show hundreds of chests worth of data in the time frame of the supposed “Golden Era of Better Loot” that show nothing better than what we see today. Yet, it fails to convince people over their emotional attachment to the good old days that never really were.

Take a stroll down memory lane in April of 2018.

Please note this post that documents elemental chests back into 2017 in that thread:

Here is a post in June 2017 of an elemental chest that they thought was amazing at the time (post 10 admits that most weren’t even that good :rofl:) :

Oh gee, doesn’t this sound familiar (2017):

I hope you folks find better loot in the chests to come. I wouldn’t look to the past for better loot; because even if it were there, it wouldn’t help you now anyways.

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It cannot be helped that some people get lucky streak in their early game life.

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Those poor b*stards :pleading_face: :pleading_face: :pleading_face: :pleading_face: :pleading_face:

Elemental Chest working too.

Third four star AM this week from chests, plus one from Shrikewood. I actually needed those Rings to ascend Queen of Hearts, so a very happy camper.

And this was a nice how do you do from a B Titan score.

As I said in my previous post, you just never know.

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And the 4-stars keep coming this week. That’s five 4* AM in a week and at least six 3* AM as well - not counting Shrikewood. And we’ve got Frostmarch and Retunr to Morlovia just around the corner. Going to be one of my better AM loot months even having skipped Farholme; as I’m full up on Compasses and Tomes of Tactics and didn’t want to blow WE during Atlantis on those.

Rare Titan Loot

Closely followed by a normal monster chest

I got 247 4* AM’s since March 2018 so 7.72/month.
My first Rainbow 5* Team i finished ~Juli 2019.

Now i have maxed 26 5* and can max another 2 so 28 in 32 month which equals 0.875 maxed 5* a month. Considering i finished 5 in ~14 Months which equals 0.36/month i can pretty much assume that you get 4* AMs more frequently the longer you play. Furthermore they’ve released several extra chances like rare titans, war chests, weekly tournements etc.

@yelnats_24 you have always been pretty meticulous in your tracking of loot. Have you noticed any reduction in the last few months at all? I usually dismiss nerfed loot types of claims but I have “witnesses” this kind of sustained drop and it is something that has also been “seen” by a number of others in my alliance, all of whom are 2+ year veterans, and some who actively track their loot. I have experienced all sorts of ebbs and flows in loot drops before but this one seems different (and yes I am aware of nerfed loot posts dating back from 2017).

I am most interested in titan loot and titan chest results but even monster and raid chests seem lower (although harder to tell, as these have always had low drops). But wich titan loot I used to consistently get 1 4* mat a week at the 14* level but it has dropped to roughly 1 every 3/4 weeks.

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I start play in 2018 and at the time the game was more balanced and pretty much everyone who has a classic hero could get high enough to be first for a few seconds. Now if you don’t push some money in your chances to get first for a second is practically impossible

I had not tracked the loot lately and do not feel any change.

The only problems I have with loot is with all buldings built and almost all research done, I have no way of using food and iron except to produce and stockpile battle items, leading to material shortage.

As for AM, I have overabundance of them…

My Titan loot is poor but others in the alliance seem to get really good 4* mats drops.

Just RNG being RNG??

Anecdotal but my bonus box in the portals kicks me out 4* mats way above the rate of others. Yesterday I did 2 10 summons and got a Scope from each.

I started playing in May 2017. Hel was the very first hero of the month. Most top players ran Boldtusk as their tank. Very few players had a fully ascended 5* hero. For a long time I thought players with Master Lupus were the true OG’s, but of course they eventually brought Springvale back.

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OK, I’m in… I played since Feb 2019. So it is 2 year and 3 month.

Not so many quests in past times, right now there are so many new quests, Ninja Tower, Mythic Titan, Tavern Of Legend, and POV.
AM look like the same, RNG seems not too much differents to me.
The most different are now we are raining emblems everywhere, not like the past time, too hard to get emblems.

I think if there are no data, then this is just a myth.

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One more thing, with the increase of events such as NT and Mystic Titan, battle item usage also increase which means we need more materials. So there is a possibility that we run out of crafting materials, leading to the misbelief that the loot is nerfed while in fact it is our usage/consumption that is increased.

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Today it’s 4 years and I reached a level 90 a few hours ago, which is the perfect timing :blush:

I miss the good times when there weren’t so many OP heroes, all events had only 10 stages and talents weren’t introduced yet. Guinevere was one of the best tanks (if not the best) at that time :yellow_heart:

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Congrats on reaching your four year anniversary and level 90 too @Jura! :partying_face::tada::confetti_ball: I hope you continue to enjoy the game. :smile:

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Thank you very much, Sam :kissing_heart:

Yes, I still enjoy it even though it makes me very angry once in a while :-)))

I believe that some new upcoming stuff will make it much more interesting. Currently, I’m looking forward to the 2nd Soul Exchange and I like the new season 5 very much - Egyptian theme is my favourite :blush:

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