Yeah thatās the choice. I prioritize daily valor over all else and Iāve hit 50 every time
Starting next time those who want to be more āefficientā and donāt mind spending can get the elite valor pass and the 9000 point boost. (Assuming it carries over the same from PC)
Summon challenge is impossible for F2P.
Iām f2p. I finished. Do facts change your mind?
Itās possible to finish for f2p.
Unfortunately, you probably need to play the game more. Iād say, fill at least two monsters chest and one raids chests daily, complete all the events that offer summons (Costume Chamber, challenge events, Tavern of Legends etc) plus raid tournaments, Mythic Titan, titan, titan chest, war, war chest. Lots of things can drop at least a silver summon token. 
I havenāt spent a single cent in the last year (no, not the whole truth, I bought the share the gems offer ) and I can assure you, summon challenge was never a problem.
I am F2P too, and I could complete the summon challange easily.
And I have 250 spare tokens which I can use in the next POV.
Lots of best case scenarios but I get it.
If you live in the game, never miss anything and score high itās not a great problem 
Of course itās a best case scenario. Itās just a list with every guaranteed free pull available during pov.
And about never missing anything, Iām not sure, but if someone even donāt do all the events (where most of the time the loot is at least usable) why is this someone concerned about finishing pov?
You only get a Avatar which is pretty much useless and maybe nice to have but without any benefits. And if the goal is the 4* mats, there is even less need to do all the daily Quests and summons, you can get to 48 without doing the last daily Valor challenge and the last summon challenge.
So everyone who plays regular shouldnāt have a problem to finish POV.
And everyone who plays casual should be able to finish at least the important part of pov (48 the 4* mats)
You can miss 33 dailies, the last daily challenge and the last summon challenge and finish on 48.
Or you can miss 28 dailies, the last daily challenge and the last two summon challenges (thatās 95 summons).
I canāt see how that is completely impossible even for players who canāt finish every quest.
This is probably (beside pov 6) the easiest we had so far. No * for the killing Titan challenge which made it doable even for small alliances, no win raids in diamond which is pretty much impossible for many smaller/newer players, no winning in tournament which is also extremely hard for players without great roosters and no need to finish monthly events which was extremely unfair because if you missed those 5 days out of 50 or wasnāt able to finish on all 3 difficulties, you already lost and had no chance to reach milestone 48.
We have had a pandemics managed on best case scenarios and still havenāt learnt?
You cannot calibrate anything on best case, at the very least because best cases are not available to everyone.
First thing that comes to mindā¦ Life.
Letās be clear. Iāve finished the PoV.
Had to play the 
py wars which I really consider as pleasant as a colonoscopy (and I would choose the latter if the doctor is handsome) to do it, but I regularly do it.
The thing isā¦ Isnāt it a frigging lot of effort to - in the end - only get a 4* material in TWO MONTHS?
Not to mention the fact that an effort that took you 45-48 days can be fizzled because you dropped your phone, your carrier has issues, your mom is in hospital.
I get it. You can.
But FFS will we - in this forum - ever stop considering staying several hours a day in front of a match-3 game a golden rule for anything healthy or advisable?
Breaking news! It-is-not.
No, itās not regular.
Itās hardcore.
Itās a lot of have-tos.
Possibly doing well also.
And letās be honest, PoV is structured to force you to connect.
Itās not impossible, but itās a lot of work.
You are thinking, like most people here who simply do everything in the game (and we wonāt inspect why) only of what you can miss, without considering what you have to do.
33 dailies are 11 days out of 50. That means that you did your job - I donāt know how else to call it - 39 days out of 50. Thatās in line - and I mean above - with working days per month in EU. Unless you work the short week in which case itās way above the line.
While this is true itās still far from not being an enormous schedule demand.
Sometimes, reading this forum, I really wonder if Iām the only one who has to pull all nighters at work, assist parents, hold the head of a friend going thru a breakupā¦
I donāt know how many people are inside an alliance, and how many go solo. If I take the people I get in pvp battles or tournaments it seems most of them are in alliances, so there is not really more to do, than they do normally.
For someone hating wars I can recommend looking for a dead alliance, coming online sometimes in the second half of the war, choose 6 random teams attack and flee. You need around 1-2 minutes of online time each war to finish this challenge if you really hate wars and still want the points for pov.
I mean there are for sure people who are online for several hours each day, but that has nothing to do with pov.
I normally come online in the morning, for around half an hour, when Iām sitting in the train on my way to university, and most of the time also in the evening when I go home.
(Now with corona and home office Iām probably longer online than before, but definitely not because I have to do anything for pov.)
That is more than enough, to fill the chests, and do the easy daily pov challenges, I mean collecting some iron from the forges doesnāt take long. All the daily challenges that would force me to do something I wouldnāt normally do and take more than a few seconds, I skip.
Iām pretty sure, thatās the only reason why pov exists.
But people who arenāt online daily, donāt have to think about it, because they wonāt finish it anyway. Those online daily donāt have to stay online any longer just to finish POV, if they donāt want to.
I mean I donāt do anything I wouldnāt do without pov that takes longer than a few seconds (the only difference I collect coins instead using them instant)
I most of the time donāt think about pov at all, when I finish it great, when I donāt finish it I donāt really care. I have reached milestone 50 maybe half the time, but havenāt missed the 4* mats till now just with normal gameplay.
In my alliance we have basically decided that wars are incidents we need to tolerate.
Nobody is asked to fight them, nobody is asked to win them, there is no strategy whatsoever.
The amicability of the people and this resolution about wars is the reason we stay in the alliance.
But there are drawbacks. We have lost quite a few players who felt better trying to win wars - which is completely legit - but resulted in a 3* titan drop nonetheless.
Now, that hurts, because titan loot is not normalized on alliance strength.
I wonāt quote the next paragraph butā¦
Letās summarize it in: you need an hour playing time everyday.
That has nothing to do with PoV butā¦
6 titan flag. Thatās 9 minutes.
A quest or something that actually requires you to play instead of auto. Iād say at the very least 5 minutes (14).
Raiding. 2 chests a day, 12 raids minimum, Iām assuming thatās at the very least 6 minutes of battle plus 2 skipping thru adversaries and selecting a team (22).
Two mystic visions. 1 minute (23).
Clearing the base and organising productionā¦ Iād say 1 minute cause Iām generous but seriously, 4 years into the game and I still canāt ENTER ā900ā and have to scroll thru it like Iām programming an alarm clock from the '80s? (24)
Monster chest. I know you can auto-play this especially in 8-7 like Iāve done but I timed it. From 0/100 to opening the chest it has taken 8ā50". Iām asking the clemency of the court here and call it 9 minutes. Thatās 18 minutes for two chests (42).
Progress thru seasons: 1 hard and 1 easy stage a day. I timed two hard stages at 5ā57" so Iād say 3 minutes per hard stage and, Iām guessing here, 1ā30" per normal stage. Letās say 4 minutes for both (46).
Today Iāve produced 110 feeders. Itās not a great number as today my gaming time was not very efficient (you know, saturday, may the 1st) and honestly I donāt know how that fares in terms of average but I will time how much it takes to reclaim them and feed them away. So, I also āwonā 15 thru farming which I didnāt notice. All in all it took me 6 minutes to feed 125 away. I did it as fast as I could. I donāt have a lot of excess roster (22), Iām not young and I have a condition that implies brain-hand coordination issues but Iām still in the 1% of players so I assume Iām at least average and take those 6 minutes as sound (52).
That is, in my opinion, a very conservative esteem of the time you need online if you donāt regularly resort to loot tickets or an overpowered roster (which many here have, but we canāt assume as a working hypothesis).
Iāve left out of this wars, events which are not just any dayās quest, ninja towers, mythic titans (just that is 1 minute more per day), a small in-game chat.
I have serious problems believing 1 hour a day is the expected playing time for E&P.
Itās not all about PoV, of course, but when you are sent to Atlantis or Valhalla for no reason or you have to sit there for a flying duck it adds to that time.
And I have to tell you.
I have a difficult time finding that daily hour and I guess (actually I know) Iām not the only one.
When this game started it was a lot less time demanding.
And TBH I believe that many donāt really know how much time they spend on the game. Not out of bad faith, but because games are designed (or at least leverage) to make you lose time perception.
Truth be told thatās a common issue in front of any electronic device which is why in my firm we have timed reminder to take breaks.
I donāt doubt that.
Butā¦ I simply canāt consider that to be the average situation.
I donāt routinely farm 3 underwater stages in Atlantis just on the right day.
I have to change my gaming habits in order to finish PoV or even get to the 4* material.
Truth be told, if you are a good daily player in a fairly competitive alliance you can laugh at the 4* material for milestone 48.
For some of us, thou, itās an important contribution to loots that are generally meager.
I have nothing against you but Iāve had this type of discussions in a lot of other games/environments: who is high in the food chain doesnāt really know the problems - if not the plain struggles - of those who are not.
You said it yourself: you just play and you finish it.
So, whatās the solution? Are you asking for PoV to be so easy that anyone can complete it in half an hour a day? That seems a little pointless really, itās supposed to be something you work towards. OK, and pay as well, but itās not a shop, itās a path ofā¦ um, well, doing stuff.
You have to be kidding me, 470 pts left for me with one day to go to get lvl 48?? Iāll probably burn the 19 tokens required for summons just for the darts and Tonic.
So, youāre triple counting here. When I fill the monster chest, itās by doing either event quests, or season progress. Then when I get around 20 WE left, Iāll look to see how much monsters I have left and top up with 7-4 (most monsters per level). Most events I can autofarm, although challenges Iāll do manually because of the time ranking. I rarely only farm 7-4 just to fill up the chest unless there are no events, or Iām pressed for time, in which case I may even use loot tickets. So that separate monster chest calculation you have is really a few minutes on top of either events, or map progression.
Of course, the option is there NOT to do the events/PoV requirements, but then you would have to accept that youāre choosing not to. Iād say that at least 90% of the PoV is either trivial (manufacture battle items), or things that a somewhat regular player would do anyway. Even when told to farm specific maps, thatās something I take as part as filling my monster chest.
Why not?
If anyone playing regularly finishes it with no effort itās not about Valor anyway.
Half an hour every day is already a remarkable demand for a game.
Iād say that is a total quality management approach and itās easily feasible for people who have freedom in time management.
If you play when you can rather than when itās best you will often end up farming monsters when you can or, even worse, have to decide whether to farm or to go for quests.
You can certainly go for multiple tasks in certain situations but thatās not a given.
Truth be told we could settle this by simply timing how much you play.
Timing honestly, using Digital wellbeing & parental control.
In the last month I went under the hour only on April, 24th, a saturday I spent with my parents.
Truth be told I want expecting to have been on E&P that much.
I only hope - hope - that a good chunk of it was auto-play.
So 2 issues:
Is 1 hour a day too much to ask? For some, maybe, but like I said, the 18 mins for the monster chests is a little much since normally you can do the other quests or maps to fill it up.
Do I spend more time than that on the game? Probably, but most of the reason is that I need a bit of diversion, and take a look, but itās generally as non-productive as looking through this forum.
A fixed schedule will certainly help in time management.
I started playing this while commuting (read state/continent commuting) so it wasnāt much of an issue. I played when I could and that made it ok.
But now time demand is relevant.
There are a lot of things to do for what is basically a match-3.
Reviewing my time on the game got me thinking.
And I mean, really thinking.
Arenāt there better things I could do with my 90 minutes/day?
TBH I donāt feel very good about it: itās a lot of my āspareā time.
I could campaign in D&D, quest in a MUD, raid in a MMORPG. There would be lots of chances if only I could think I had those 90 minutes available continuously.
As Iāve saidā¦ I hope that a good chunk of my time on the game is auto. I really do.
Because with the recent changes due to the pandemic I donāt travel as much and rather than lacking time to sink, Iām just lacking time in my days.
I understand itās a personal issue, but when you start to have to choose between a show, a movie, a drink with a friend - and possibly what comes next - and the gameā¦ My 34677834th iteration of raiding, training, or whatsoever else will lose.
I should thank this thread for opening my eyes on the amount of time. I thought I had it under control, but it was partially true: although Iām not playing for hours straight all the chunks still amount to way too much, especially for a match-3.
Why I play games like this is because you can play them in little bite sizes in between other stuff. An MMORPG pretty much takes over your life (long story, but I owe my divorce to WoW, for which Iām eternally grateful). In the old days raids would take hours; in fact the big raid dungeons like Molten Core were open for a week with the option to extend if you hadnāt finished, and you had to be there or youād be letting 39 players down. A single fight could take half an hour if it ran smoothly, two nights if it was a tough one and somebody kept lousing up until everyone was tired and grouchy. Hell, getting through the trash mobs before each boss could take that long. Thatās what I could be doing in my spare time, in between farming like crazy for the mats for the battle items youād use hundreds ofā¦ in other words the same thing, but much longer and more immersive. I just donāt have the headspace or the concentration these days.
With E&P, the two similar games and a host of little mindless ones like Sudoku and bubble bursters, Iāve always got something to do in an idle moment but the important thing is that it is fitting round real life: work, outings, housekeeping (if I didnāt play games Iād have to find another excuse for avoiding the latter)ā¦ itās well suited to picking up while youāre waiting in the queue at the supermarket or your friend needs another 10 minutes before theyāre ready to join you. Before I got a smartphone I always had a book or a puzzle magazine to hand for such times. Nowadays, along with the phone, camera, diary etc, itās all on one device. But itās still the same time sink it always was, just a different shape.
This is also why Iām in an alliance thatās so casual itās almost asleep. Weāre humbly grateful if everyone actually manages to use all their war flags, rather than prescribing when members must be online and who theyāre allowed to hit (it wouldnāt work anyway as weāre in various time zones). We even win sometimes. As for prescribing team colours, ahahahaha, good luck with that!
And thatās the point of the game. Itās a bit of a time waster that you can pick up and drop when convenient. Altogether it adds up, but you donāt necessarily need to sit down to do it all at once, unless you are filling chests. Even the challenge events can be spread out throughout the days, thereās no need to rush through them to get them done in one day.
Of course it depends on how much WE you have and roster as the higher your WE bank, the fewer times you need to play so that you donāt āwasteā it.
Yup, the āelasticityā of mobile games is pretty much exactly the reason I started playing them.
Stillā¦ 90 minutes 
I just didnāt expect that.
Gave me something to think about.
Things like: āYo Yhc, by the end of the year you could have worked 80 extra daysā 