Thanks to Guin, we really have some powerful dark heroes, and yet every dark is a failure counter against her.
Iām usually against nerf but heck, I want her nerfed.
We have to look ahead of what it is like to have all colors of GM tanked by someone like Telluria or Guin. Will you find such a raid fun?
But then if SG release her as it is, i will definitely pull for her.
as the defender? yeah. Iām really looking forward to adding the non-nerfed clarissa beside my telluria and vela 
in fact, letās buff up telluria back to the original stats and give vela some healing too.
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Kunchen, Frida etc got +46% for 4 turns vs +64% for 3 turnsā¦seems like significant but canāt exactly claim that without proper testing
She has better attack, defense, and health than Gravekamer. She hits everyone instead of 3. Super surprised to see this.
Gravemaker is scheduled to return to Atlantis in May. I guess Iāll be saving all of my pulls until then and hope for one of them.
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Sheās Paladin class, ā ā ā ā ā ā ā at least change her to Wizard so that Guin canāt paired with her for another couple of months or so.
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Yes, thatās the rational approach after all. If thereās a good hero someone somewhere struggles with, letās release broken counters amirite?
Remember when you were F2P? Those were the days. 
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With what happen to JF, please stay positive and come with suggestions.
I want her more sturdy and her class is changed to Rogue
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rogue sounds right for a poisoner. what kind of a paladin poisons people?
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Just hiding in the corner and throw out her poison 
Compare her with Vela and Vela become a joke in just 4 monthsā¦
Isnāt this a hit all Gravemaker??? Okay, Gravemaker is now a joke tooā¦
With an underwhelming HotM such as Raffaelle following her, I wonder what is on the devās mindā¦
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I have to disagree strongly about Guin. Seshat for one is a great counter, as are several others. She also has a general weakness to mono purple stacks, as there is little penalty for sinking tiles into her looking for purples.
If I was a Guin owner, which Iām not, Iād be justifiably angry if they nerfed her.
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I have Seshat, and yes sheās a counter but not enough unless you run a team of 5 Seshats. What other dark is a counter to her?
Needing a mono dark team to counter her is exactly why she is broken. How many mono dark team can you come up with during war?
Also, now with Finley paired with Guin, I see now even a mono dark team can have some trouble against that.
Yes, thank you! I suspect you are right - Iāll ignore this thread and check back in ~six weeks to see where weāre at.
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Wars are different, youāre right she is a really strong war tank.
I have met in war where two third of the enemies are running Guin tank and it is making the war very not fun.
If you come to our alliance (where our enemies usually have 2 or 3 4k+ teams) you wonāt have that problem 
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As a Vela owner who is very enamored with her, this was my thought. Folks were saying Vela needed to be buffed to 209 DoT over 3 turns instead of 4 because of her fast mana. That didnāt happen, so now they test this beast at 298 DoT over TWO turns, and at very fast instead of fast mana? Iād be shocked if this holds up.
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Purple gravemaker with whole team AoE? OP of course.
But please find some balance in specials. This would be the third ādoes extra damage to holyā on top of Joke-Arr and Ursena. Still no holy heroes that do extra damage to dark, right? Also No blue heroes that reflect green specials, yellow that reflect purple specials or green reflect red specials (would need to be very fast to counter GM).
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