🧪 Early Information on the May 2020 HOTM (Clarissa)

[bobiscool]

First of all, thank you guys for taking the time to give your detailed answers, @TomSnow and @Lasagne

Just a quick note, I want to clear up something.

@Lasagne

That’s just what you constantly bring up to ridicule our arguments!

@TomSnow

Alluding that I ask for that is a strawman argument.

I’m not accusing you guys of anything there. It’s just that you guys always mention this “gap”, without specifically stating what exactly it is. That’s why I gave concrete examples to show what type of an answer I was looking for. Because I think only when we concretely define what the gap is, how big it is and how big we think it should be can the conversation be productive.

But, I think with these two posts you guys made, it’s pretty clear to me that the real concern isn’t about some “gap” between f2p players and p2w players in terms of game-play; those points about the monthly raid tournaments is just an attempt to justify an argument.

The key point in all of this, is:

@TomSnow

F2P players (a category I do not belong to, btw) might get one or maybe two non-vanilla heroes a year on average despite daily active playing (I had zero after more than a year as F2P). This hero is random and could also be one of the less useful ones. How is having 80 or 100 special heroes disclosed not a form of exclusion?

@Lasagne

As said above, F2P and vC2P have access to only a small part of the special skills heroes have to offer.

This is the key here. At heart, we are all card collectors. We just want to collect all the cards.

I do too.

But @Lasagne said it well here, and I strongly agree with this statement:

@Lasagne

Thousands of dollars is more money than some people have for a living for one whole year!

Thousands of dollars is a lot of money. If some people are spending thousands of dollars, why should I feel entitled to getting anywhere near equal treatment as they do?

Thousands of dollars is a lot of money. It’s more money than some people live on in an entire year. Don’t you think they deserve to be undisputedly the best of the best, by spending that kind of money? Don’t you think the “gap” should be wide enough to justify their spending?

If the gap was tiny; if say f2p players could get 80 or 90% of the heroes people spending THOUSANDS of dollars can, don’t you think that’s like a big middle finger to all those big whales who are keeping this game alive for us to play?

Lambourghinis cost a lot of money. I don’t feel entitled to a free 2015 Lambourghini aventador because it’s been released for a few years.

A $30 million dollar mansion in the Beverly Hills costs a lot of money. I don’t feel entitled to a free mansion built in 1992 because it’s been nearly 30 years.

You get what you paid for. I go into a supermarket, and they’re giving out free samples of some items. I don’t feel entitled to getting a bunch of other items for free too because I can’t afford them.

Heroes are a luxury item. They cost money. I think of it like say a netflix; some movies and shows are premium; you have to pay money to have access to them. I don’t feel entitled to be able to watch those movies for free because I can’t afford the cost.

SG is already extremely generous by giving f2p players any chance at all at obtaining every single hero released, if they are lucky enough. Just look at this f2p player here. If every f2p player was like that, why would anyone spend money?

@Lasagne

As I’ve said before, if the gap is somewhat narrowed, whales and P2W would feel more pressure from the F2P/C2P below and, therefore be couraged to continue or even increase their spending.

If I was a whale (unless I was worth hundreds of millions of dollars and money is no object), I would feel extremely discouraged that a free player can get 80-90% of what I spent thousands of dollars on. It would feel like a huge middle finger being pointed at my wasted money.

I would stop spending completely, and go to another game where I get a lot more bang for my buck.

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I would like to end with this. Last month, when Atlantis suddenly appeared unexpectedly early in the month, I did a single coin pull and got a Mok-Arr. At the time, Mok-Arr was my 5th special non s1 hero.

I would have been so much happier if it had been Ursena or Mitsuko.

So guys, let’s be honest with ourselves here. The “gap” in terms of game play really doesn’t matter. It’s just about collecting heroes. And so, in terms of collecting heroes, don’t you want to get a desireable great hero, on the off chance you do get that special non s1 hero?

So I think we should support strong new heroes, not trying to nerf them all the time.

P.S

@TomSnow

Therefore your arguing against ‘specific heroes are hard to get’ is completely invalid. You throw out assumptions that are simply not true.

Actually, no. You just disproved your own argument. Your point about specific heroes is completely invalid.

@TomSnow

C2P don’t chase specific heroes as they know their chanced are slim. However, even theyvtry to optimize their summonings and, for instance wait until next month

Exactly.

The vast majority of players do not chase specific heroes. Only the very biggest spenders do so.

More importantly, is the second part of your statement there; IF we know that all heroes will eventually be released for free, a very great number of players will stop spending or significantly lower their spending, waiting for the month that those heroes are released for free, just like how they wait and optimize right now to save on costs.

The only people who’s spending habits won’t be affected are the 1% of the 1% of big whales.