Same after this announcement my view shifted from, āsummon to
Build a full gargoyle teamā to āget the 3/4*s and dip out.ā
Kalo looks ripe for exploitingness with clever lineups. Hope I can get him.
Yesterday everybody complained about how OP all the gargoyles are and now that 1 of them is delayed everybody is complaining how crappy they all are?
Anyway I couldnĀ“t care less what they do with 5* heroes, I never get any of them anyway lol. As long as they have a few good 4 stars I am happy.
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Think itās the other red that has been panned.
The good red is held back.
Those, who are keen to try their luck at the Gargoyle Wheel of Fortune, naturally prefer that the good red not be held back.
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Iām surprised youād say that. Unless you were not in beta when he was tested, you would know how brokenly OP he was.
As for what SGG plans for him, well, thatās their business.
Lastly, if he were to have been neutered after beta feedback and just released he would have become just another ho hum red.
The fact we saw him as they originally gave him to us in beta, tells me they had plans for him.
I seeā¦ Not sure how Iāve surprised you but Iāve noticed how broken he was but I kinda gave up on testing and telling them āhey this is OPā or āhey this is underpoweredā, specially on challenge events because they donāt even want to know about it because event heroes āare so rare they can be any strong and wonāt break the gameā. Iāve done that too much already.
In the end they will do whatever they think that is right, even if they need to do those ābalance updatesā later.
Beta testing made me change some ways to see how they manage the game and kinda made me even more unmotived. I canāt see no more than legendary heroes spamming, more and more costumes as ābuffsā, no more real balance updates and further buffing on event heroes, which means raids, tournaments and wars are keeping getting worse and such. I thought I would be able to elaborate analisys and help the game to develop better, but all they want us to do is hunt bugs and say obvious things about heroesā power that often are ignored.
I hope I can see some more light in the future but that just me. Every single update from the last 5 months resulted in nothing more than rage and upset players. That being said, I donāt blame myself for being kind of tired.
So, wellā¦ Whatever they plan to do with Hohenwerf, it should be just another power creep move and Iām honestly not intersted. They made a delay on non s1 costumes as well, but in the endā¦ they always do the same thing.
Based on how is the game working nowadays, theyāre just saving the most OP hero for later for making peple spend there again, which isnāt a surprise to anyone at this point.
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Honestly both those heroes needed to be reworked. Hohenwulf is too broken while el Duke is too weak
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If they removed poopy duquey for more testing Iād be thrilled!
Just increase the DD stack to -27% per hit whatās so hard about it?
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Lol think -24% is standard. 3 turns.
Then DD increases per turn by 8% per turn. Ending up with -48%. Respectable DD this.
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Think Red Wolfie is intended to be a money spinner for Gargoyles summon portal. Thatās why heās this OP for now.
I always thought itās 9% and not 8
Yeah soā¦
Stack: (max 3): the target and nearby enemies get -24% defence.
Right now the only place el duke can be used is mythic when the match is more drawn out and even then he would never reach 10 stacks unless you pot dump everything on him just to get that 80% DD. Meaning he is very resource heavy.
But an Asterius/ saoirse/ khafre/ el Duke/ Zenobia team can slay any green titan in no time
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Red Athena works good too. One mana load = off she goes. Start the tile dumping.
Itās a shame none of them are barbarians, the bleed damage will be off the charts
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Wellā¦ gargoyles have their Stoneskin. Thatās a great passive. Even if for 1 turn.
El Duque has highest dps at very fast speed, as well as popping gargoyle skin every 2 matches seems absurd (he can negate alot more dmg than others)ā¦
His def down stack is undispellable for 3ā¦ What else do you want? 
He is beyond powerfull.
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I donāt get it, why on earth do people think El Duque is underpowered?!
Do you also find Congalach underpowered?!
Any hero [with stack] will have an undispellable effect in play. & If they get a chance to maximize it - like vs a titan - that means up to 80% defense down. No one has that high of defense down in this entire game (!!)
Iām lost here, truly. Especially as this hero is very fast mana, and hits three targets. And heās fire element. Jeez.
What more do you people want?!
Seriously, am I missing something here? Why arenāt people swooning over him as I am?!
(Also, Hohenwerf getting taken out is bull-
- Iām super annoyed atm)
Edit:
I will add, that I do agree partly with the concerns; the only issue I have with El Duque vs, say, Congalach, is he requires 10 SS firing to maximize the stack, vs Congalach @ two. & Him being VF, he fires twice in the time that Congalach does so once, so while Congalach would be at max, El Duque would only have achieved stack four. So while yes, Iāll agree that this part of his SS is less than ideal, I still canāt agree that heās underpowered. Any hero that can potentially have the highest DD in this game is nothing to turn your nose at (imo). 80% is insane. Raid wise, I think heād shine more in rainbow teams, where his SS firing becomes a more regular activity, to hopefully maximize better. But in the end, this hero, to me, seems more built for Mythic Titans than anything else.
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The only thing people are critiquing is really the stack, and Iām not the first to do this.
Although I do admit I was looking at the stack, and feel that it doesnāt matter in the short run. Idk he does seem okay, just that itās so hard to bring 10 stacks out in a short period of time
Once a hero learns how to remove stacks, heās pretty much gone.
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To be clear, the def down stacks, stacks with other def down right?
Yes, it is different from ailments
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