Why do SG even have beta testing itās a mystery
They never listen, and never learn
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They have beta players to provide statistics analysis and a little of feedback on top, but we as community put much more emphasis on expectations that they value our feedbackā¦
You/ we have to understand, they are game developers, not some social workers 
Though they would certanly benefit of having more āāsocialāā in their approach and not be as black/white developers.
It appears SG have figured out how to introduce 6* heroes into the game without calling them 6* heroes. Yay.
I am looking forward to the day I get to bounce back to platinum (or gold maybe) to stay 
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Then blame SG, but know there is more to an organization than just the devs and chances are there is a product owner/ product manager steering the direction of the game.
Have to admit I donāt understand how they are ātestingā the game concepts before passing to devs to work on. So many ideas panned by the community, itās almost as if they are completely disconnected from us and not listening at all!
My guess is that the faces on the forum are not the decision makers. They are just passing feedback onā¦both ways
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Maybe being controversial hereā¦outside of raiding in diamond how does the gap between P2W and F2P impact anyone?
Wars are tiered and matchmaking tries (albeit imperfectly) to give alliances competition at the same level.
Seasons and events will eventually become problematic for F2P if the āeasy to get heroesā arenāt boosted to maintain balance, but this has been an annual event since I started playing (although this yearās balancing seems stingy).
I get the ego need to be top of a large heap. But honestly, donāt we all just play our game with our cohort at the same level and have a bit of in game banter? Or is there something I am missing?
Btw (again imo) - cups gained and lost in raiding mean nothing to the game outside of the arena you play in.
I can see P2W players getting fed up with the lack of flexibility in limit breakers and switching off their wallet, which (again imo) should actually be of more concern to everyone as this would be the end of the game. But why is the gap between F2P and P2W such a concern? What is the impact?
I made my peace with not playing top 100 a long time ago!
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This is certainly going to ābreakā my ālimitsā.
Dumb, dumber, and dumbest ideal all wrapped in one dumb package.
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@Lily_frogg
Can understand your point of view. And grats on finding a suitable way for you.
Anyhow, I believe that any kind of āarrangementā shouldnāt be the adequate answer to the changes weāre faced with.
Sometimes itās time to say āNoā.
Most of us (posting people) are in game since years. Many of us are tired of nerfing, screwed cost, and other stuff like that.
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Can they come up with a better features?!!
Maybe add a whole NEW town with NEW buildings ??!
Fix the puzzles functionality make it more advanced!!!
Fix the loot system!!
Make sure that elemental chest provides the same element mats and not farmable boots!!
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Agree they always have to make the heroās better. Thatās how games keep going. Most f2p and c2p players ā¦ are enjoying the game. They donāt give you any bonus for top 100 playā¦ most trophies you get nothing extraā¦ I have friends that are in top 100 and the p2pā¦also ones that are c2p in the top 100ā¦ if you learn how to move tiles well you can take a lot bigger teams then you out ā¦ thereās no issue really. All any of this means is ā¦ I could possibly get a better hero then āsomeoneā which is how the game has always beenā¦ they will never stop making stronger heroās and the heroās stronger ā¦ or the game will die. I do think that new players starting out should receive a 3* team instead of just bane to help them keep interest. But other then that ā¦ itās al good. Wait and see how things are before everyone gets upsetā¦ itās so minority report all the time. (Blaming before something happens) I dunno maybe Iām wrong and it will ruin the game ā¦ but for who? Ppl that are always threatening to quit anyways?
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Not disagreeing! I am asking what the real impact to players is of a widening gap between F2P and P2W outside of raiding in diamond.
Help me understandā¦
It is 7.5*ā¦ 6* is via emblem, 6.5* is emblemed S4.
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I new hoping SG would use this to buff S1/old HOTM was to much. They could have tiered the increases, giving bigger increases to S1 heroes and decreasing as you go thru to S4, but to much to hope for.
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I think that, many players being quick to grab pitchforks is truly a sign that the community has never properly recovering from Tell/Vela saga.
Also, many players are still waiting for a solution to duplicate heroes, apparently promised long ago. I say apparently because, maybe at that time, they really did have the intention to work on it. So much time has passed, I view the Hero Academy as a something is better than nothing action.
Well, you canāt say I didnāt warn you about me quitting. 
To be clear, this is sharing my perspective as a vc2p, close to f2p whoās played for more than three years. Some c2p and p2p players are getting over the finishing point continually getting extended too.
It takes a long time to max out a 5*, and then add emblems on top of that. As Iāve said earlier, no thanks SG!
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Looks like SGG donāt know how else get fast and big amount of money with minimal work in adequate way (first strike was with Telluria and Vella). Support whole game, listening players and stay healthy not a variant - too lazy. Costumes, emblems, limit breakers - itās all just a rebalance.
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Limit breakers are still a deal breaker for me.
Please put your efforts in solving actual QoL requests like roster limitation, dupes and even chat functions.
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How many of you are actually going to face multiple teams of boosted 5*s, outside of regular raids? Ok, maybe the whales will require a ton of boosted heroes to counter huge defense teams in wars, but thatās a whale issue and they have the money to deal with it.
And if youāre that frustrated with raids, just stop raiding. Loot got nerfed anyway, remember??
This is a great opportunity to take the heroes youāve managed to grind and make some of them good enough for upcoming PvE content, even content you may be struggling with currently.
If you see this feature in terms of war defense youāll never come up against, rejoice! If youāre jealous of people having shiny new things regardless, gachas are not for you.
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Hi, my question is will the limit breaker have an effect on Team Cost? Ever since Iāve started the game until now, Team Cost has never played a factor. I.e. if you use a lvl 85 limit break hero, will you need to substitute one of your other 5* for a 4* on the field perhaps?
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My 2c: I can only speak for myself. I would expect to see a lot of limit broken war defences, should I choose to stay in a high end alliance (top 100 when full).
Iām not a whale either. Iām vc2p, and combined with costumes for non-S1 heroes, this doesnāt encourage me to increase or even maintain my spending.
Besides that, ofc whales can be found in non-top 100 alliances too. And this wonāt just impact whales.
Nah, this is everyoneās heroes getting nerfed, and having to grind further for the most powerful version. The grind is getting too much for not small numbers - a lot of us have been playing for two, three, even four years.
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Not true Iām in a top 100 alliance and half of the players are f2p or c2p and the other half spend a little but not a much as a wale does.
I guarantee you we will face those teams if that stupid idea comes to lifeā¦
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Well, one thing iām sure about is that in the end everyone will keep playing the game just like before, i for sure will. Despite my comment, itās not the p2w-f2p aspect of it that bothers me (iām perfectly fine enjoying this game at my own pace and level, even though being in the low diamond it could become a bit frustrating seeing teams skyrocketing from 4600 to 5000). As i mentioned before, thatās just my personal feeling about a feature i donāt particularly like, especially after the statement that this is to keep up with the future game using old content, when thereās a more honest way to do it that doesnāt rely on players wasting time/resources. Those who rely on older heroes are mostly f2p, and limit breakers donāt seem f2p-friendly at all.
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