E&P Goddesses - A Poll

Ahh yes the lovely Ginger. She’ll steal your heart and your soul

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The lovely Melia hasn’t had a chance to compete yet! And some might find the sultry Misandra alluring. Has Belith had her day on the runway? And the mysterious Ameonna…

I think we can agree that Gill-Ra doesn’t need to get a vote.

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How about a round of 16 playoff. Seed the winners of the first 7 rounds as 1-7 by % of votes. Take the top 9 runners up by % of votes and seed them 8-16. Do a bracket style tournament. #1 seed vs #16, #2 vs #15, etc. Each voter gets 1 vote in each head to head match. Winner moves on to the next round.


@Kerridoc - Belith was winner of Round 2 of the contest, she will be in the playoffs. Also, as the contest started before S2, there are bound to be more heroes as Atlantis unfolds (one being Ariel, and this contest might end before Atlantis is totally revealed), @razor made the decision of trying to keep the current contest limited to S1 and heroines of the month, but who is to say he won’t change it. Also, Gil-Ra seem like a fallen mermaid that would’ve belonged to the Atlantis family until her unfortunate fall from grace. I’d say if Gil-Ra gets a nope even in consideration, Skittleskull can forget her chances.

Sartana: My my, isn’t this an interesting turn of events?
Elena: Yes! I win!
Vivica: Congratulations on moving on, Ms. Elena.
Elena: Thanks Vivica, I knew you were on my side. Were there any doubts that I was going to win?
Layla: Hmph, you looked pretty nervous when Lady Guinevere made that last charge and even briefly took the lead.
Elena: Layla! Oh you! Just the person I am looking for! Looks like I will have a chance against you after all!
Layla: Looking for more punishment huh? We’ll see you around. vanishes away
Elena: Grrr… I really hate it when she does that!
Guinevere: I concede defeat to you Lady Elena. But if you could, could you please keep what you heard the other night between myself and Sir Lancelot a private matter?
Elena: Yes, Milady, you made a valiant effort in this round of battle and I shall make sure no one else will hear of what happened.
Guinevere: Thank you, truly, now I must take my leave, my Lord Arthur awaits me. leaves
Vivica: See, isn’t it nice that we all are working our differences out nice and friendly-like?
Elena: Hah, they won’t hear anything from me, but her affair with Sir Lancelot is pretty much public knowledge, you can even read about it in the tabloids Corellian Weekly or Secrets of Camelot, both available in circulation around town.

Vivica looked bewildered and had both hands over her mouth as if giving an ‘oh my’ expression

Sartana: Oh ho ho ho, feisty, clever and mischievous, I am beginning to like you, young Elena.


Fine, just so you know that Melia will always have my heart… :heart:


Bring back in a potential SMALL portion of the losers (3rd/4th in each respective poll)
all the winners and MOST if not ALL of the 2nd place contestants (if not all?)
Completely open to ideas…

So we know some had to go up against some competition while some others had it a little easier… I’m hoping that you guys can decide.

So I’m going to provide you will the data to hopefully make a good decision all in 1 place!!!

Because of the ability for voters to cast 7 votes across potentially multiple candidates - our VOTES are not equal by any means in each round… makes this a much harder!

Once we Queen the winner and Princess (the runner up)…

Then the Men of E&P will be introduced as the Brawling Bachelors (open to this title as well)! Shorter rounds likely - we do need to get this done by 2019!

And that will result in: E&P’s COUPLE OF THE YEAR 2018!
Cheesy - YES! Will it be fun - YES!

@GERATH - yes, yes she is :slight_smile:

@NPNKY - ALL ideas are on the table/welcomed! That is an option!

@Shohoku79 - YOU are the BEST!!!

@Kerridoc Ha ha - we determined that this year we would stick to Season 1 characters for this ultimate end goal! And next year well, lets see if they give us enough new characters to have a new pool!

  • RaZoR

Everyone bring your E&P Friends into this so we can move it along quicker in the PLAYOFFS!
Certainly AFTER us old timers get to determine the PLAYOFF configuration!
They will get to play a part in HISTORICAL MATCH MAKING!!!

Although we can find the vote counts each characters got by doing some math, it is still amazing how some close some of these results are that separate the winner and the runner up. I mean, only 2 votes separated Belith and Athena, 3 between Elena and Guinevere, and 4 for Delilah and Li Xiu? Talk about nail biters.

I also like @NPNKY’s tourney idea. With how close these were, you kind of have to bring the runner ups in, only because they could’ve easily taken the round they were in as well. I do like the 1 v 1 bracket idea too, except you might need to either limit shorten the number of total voters or impose a time limit on the poll openings just so you can move the tournament along at a much quicker pace.

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Wait “The Men of E&P”…what about the beasts? Azlar? Greymane? Nashgar? Boldtusk? Or the trees?? Horghall?? :grin:

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@Rook ha ha - yeah they might need to be bunched in with the outstanding cast and crew of Atlanteans for next year - this year BEAUTY - next year BEAST!!! LOL, that’s actually a good idea eh?

@Kerridoc Melia get’s a BEAUTY pass - yeah we probably should have fit her and Misandra in this group ha ha ha. They will be shoe in’s for Queen/Princess roles next year unless SGG starts churning out ladies from that not-ugly generator :wink:

@Shohoku79 - crazy close - right??? I never would have imagined. 2 votes, 3, 4? And I know some people that just stumble across it obviously only cast a single or less than 7 votes. Once it gets to the point its between 2 for sure I think it gets more competitive than one might think…

Some good ideas! 1 v 1 - yeah that is cool… hmmm. We could possibly do 2 1x1 at the same time, or heck do them all at the same time if we want to get crazy!!! ha ha ha ha

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I love Guin :heart_eyes::smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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@Shohoku79 I knew I booked marked this for a reread because I forget what made me laugh hard getting side tracked. Well it’s all awesome. " Secrets of Camelot" lol


My Vivca still all way winner to me.
I say you make:

  • Round of Queens where top 4 winners (by votes) compet in whos the most loved one.
  • Round of Princess where top 4 2nd places compet with each others to pick all over 2nd place.
  • Round of Wisdom for same system 3rd placed.

12 votes to each player, 4 per Round.
Loved your hard working @Razor
And the H.U dark version looks badass bro, great work.

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Hey @Razor maybe I missed it but how did you decide which 4 ladies to pair together?

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@GERATH - Polling was an idea when the 1st round was created. I personally picked 4 of my favorites at the time - figured it was a 1 time deal and I’d move onto the next Polling question topic afterwards.

I saw there was enough interest to do another and got some input from the Forum and incorporated… Made sure I got in all the characters mentioned basically and usually noticed the forum of who I was thinking of putting in the next round usually leaving 1 outstanding… etc.

I had originally opened a thread for the original poll, the 2nd and the 3rd - and I came across guidelines requesting like topics to be kept together (which this clearly qualified for) so got Super @Rook to help merge the 3 together - lost a little history and traction which I figured would happen - all good though!

Requests came in that took us to round 7! So at this time it’s in all of our hands to determine who we match vs who! I’m just hoping it’s not left up to me!!!

More than you wanted to hear I’m sure - that’s the history of it. So yeah I had controlled 1, 2-5 I lead, 6 was to make good on a particular hero I almost forgot & @Shohoku79 helped fill that one out (as I was trying to restrict to Epic/Legendary - no point in that really) and 7 is just who we got left with who happened to be the BIG GIRLS group! Most of the trail is above! I’m going to stop typing now! ha ha


@Rduke77 - Athena I’d say with 99.9% certainty is in the playoffs! You will want to get your votes in for her! Not sure Red or Lianna will make it… were determining that now and have stats on all their performance for review…


@markpessan - me too! Stay nearby - she is on the edge a bit potentially… I’ll wait till everyone gets their input in before moving forward - which is sometime this time tomorrow I suspect - for a time reference!

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@Jedon that is a great attitude regarding Vivica! I don’t think she is going to make it in??? The lady has the child bearing hips for a bear, my gosh! (I didn’t say that out loud)… Or maybe she will… idk.

The only issue we have with going by Votes is there isn’t an equal distribution of Votes… I think that we need to determine final factor to decide the last 2-4-6 to be included - will it be by votes, %, or votes and %. % is where I would tend to lean however - its up to everyone.

I think your suggestion is absolutely an option. It makes it pretty easy to do the crowning in basically 2 contests. Then it just goes back to the prior paragraph for Queen/Princess round.

The Wisdom winner being wise had saved up 300 gems in prior ‘pagents’ to attempt a 1 in (\frac{d}{{dx}}\cot x = - \csc ^2 x\dfrac {?}{\oiint \ngeqslant }) odds to summon the crown of the Goddess of Goddesses which would debunk both the winners in round 1 and 2, making them the Queen of Queens. Right? Ha ha.

Thanks Buddy! Glad you like that H.U. dArK vErSiOn - yeah it’s cool - appreciate that comment about it! Right on. Catch ya soon.

  • RaZoR
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I have that Job hunting thing today :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: - will check back in around 8pm MST (USA) time to see where we are at!

Please provide any of your ideas and/or feedback on following 3 methods if you have a preference and any selection criterion you feel is fair for section of who makes the playoffs (fight for your lady if they should be in it): Link to Results List of Goddesses

@Shohoku79 @NPNKY @Jedon @Rook @MrsBCW @Sorsha @FraVit93 @LucasDaoc

Suggestions so far…

  1. 16 round Tournament (@NPNKY): Seed the winners of the first 7 rounds as 1-7 by % of votes. Take the top 9 runners up by % of votes and seed them 8-16. Do a bracket style tournament. #1 seed vs #16, #2 vs #15, etc. Each voter gets 1 vote in each head to head match. Winner moves on to the next round. Till there are 2 standing.

  2. Select 3 (This expedites results by @Jedon) - 3 matches for 3 winners… done.

  • Round of Queens. Top 4 winners (by votes) (4vs)
  • Round of Princess. Top 4 2nd winners (4vs)
  • Round of Wisdom for same system Top 3rd place. (4vs)
  • Voters get 4 votes per round instead of 7
  1. Continue with established polling method and pick top 12 or top 16 and determine placement… perhaps similar to 1) with seeding however no 1 vs 1 till last match.

r1) 4vs x 3 - or - 4vs x 4 (Top 12 or Top 16 - using seeding like 1 above)
> 3 winners + highest % runner up or 4 winners
r2) final 4vs with results from r1
> final 2 based on %
r3) 1 on 1 for Queen/Princess
- could have an optional r2.5 where have the top 3 from r2 do a 3vs


To hasten (or perhaps shorten the process) so the queen can be crowned, and start the male heroes contests to appease the out crying voices for equality, here might be something you could consider. Take the winning % differentials for each of the seven rounds into consideration in the pairings.

The two winners with the largest percentage differential over the runner up gets a 1st round playoff bye. Round 1 is made up of 1 v 1 brackets of possibly 6 other brackets made up of the other winners and runner ups.

So based on the charts.

  • Morgan La Fey and Layla are the ones with the highest win % in their rounds, they automatically advance to round 2. It is what it is, they are just “that” much more popular than the runner ups in their round, don’t fault @Razor for putting them where they were.
  • 6 other 1 v 1 brackets are made up of:
    Natalya, Belith, Delilah, Hawkmoon, Elena (Other winners of their round)
    Isarnia, Athena, Zeline, Li Xiu, Hel, Brienne, Guinevere (Runner Ups of the 7 rounds)

To prevent any sort of rematches of the earlier rounds, the match ups of the 6 brackets in the first round will be randomized and @Razor or @Roxy_TM can put 12 names in the proverbial hat and draw (so Natalya will not face Isarnia immediately in the first round, for example).

To speed things up, you can probably run 2 brackets at a time with limiting factors like 1. shortened number of total voters (e.g. instead of 100, use 50), 2. time limit (e.g. each battle rounds will open for 3 days and automatically close), or 3. limited number of votes per person (instead of 7, each get 3).

Just thought it would be nice to incorporate all the number ones and twos of each round with a slight advantage to two of them for the odd number of rounds, and them being the more popular of their rounds.


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