šŸ‰ Dragonspire - Map

Gameplay Help & Tactics
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I am just checking my pulse ā€¦ yup, still alive

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  1. Out of control dmg lvls. 3-4-5k normal mob autoattack? 5k+ boss autoattack? Killing a boss with the special tile 3 match? Awful awful dmg structure.

  2. Slow building / levelling / gathering progress. Boring as hell. Been there, done that. Once it was OK. Second time? Hate it.

  3. Three Map Stages? Really? I am not the farming type of guy. Few days in and already nothing to do.

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Is it normal that I donā€™t get any dragons when farming? :thinking:

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Yes, it is normal. Regular map stages does not give any dragons at the moment.
It is confirmed by Staff.

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SG currently wants to restrict farming access to 3* mats and block access to 4* mats so that they can force PtW players to buy them. They will gradually roll out access to map stages according to their strategy to maximise their income.

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I just got an ornate headdress from idle chest. :open_mouth:

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I thought their in game email said they were going to increase common feather drops. Iā€™ve not seen an increase :man_shrugging:

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Yup. Once you get two hatcheries going, you run out of white feathers pretty quickly. If it were up to me, Iā€™d add a ā€œcheapā€ option to replace tier 1 that only cost 1 feather at tier 6 (when you get that second hatchery), or maybe even none.

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When the message came out, common feathers did increase the drop rate. However, the last day or two, rates have dropped off significantly again. At least from my perspective. 3 feathers total after 6 stages?

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It would be nice, if we would find a rough formula with some reasonable effort to calculate the expected damage for dragon attacks.

So I tested the damage from several dragons with neutral damage from combo1 tiles on the monsters in 2-1 (= 5460 defense) and 2-10 (= 6090 defense)

Mission 2-1 attack defense min max avg variance 5% var calc
Sassy 9765 5460 520 574 547 27 27,35
Silva 9769 5460 520 574 547 27 27,35
Krio 10182 5460 550 606 578 28 28,9
Trainer 1* 3668 5460 79 87 83 4 4,15
Krio 5969 5460 246 270 258 12 12,9
Krio 6174 5460 260 286 273 13 13,65
Silva 9226 5460 481 531 506 25 25,3
red 22422 5460 1433 1582 1507,5 74,5 75,375

grafik

Mission 2-10 attack defense min max avg variance 5% var calc
Sassy 9765 6090 494 546 520 26 26
red 22422 6090 1402 1548 1475 73 73,75
Trainer 1* 3668 6090 57 61 59 2 2,95

grafik

:thinking:
Well, that looks very similar and like straight lines.
a x attack + b

=> we get approximations with
damage against 5460 defense = (0.07596 x attack - 195.3257) Ā±5%
damage against 6090 defense = (0.07560 x attack - 217.6375) Ā±5%

What happens when we divide ā€œbā€ by the defense value?
195.3257 / 5460 = 0.03577
217.6374 / 6090 = 0.03574
:thinking:

a = ~ 0.0758
b = ~ 0.0357 x defense

Mission 2-1 attack defense min max avg Calc avg Calc min Calc max
Sassy 9765 5460 520 574 547 546 519 573
Silva 9769 5460 520 574 547 547 520 574
Krio 10182 5460 550 606 578 578 549 607
Trainer 1* 3668 5460 79 87 83 83 79 87
Krio 5969 5460 246 270 258 258 245 271
Krio 6174 5460 260 286 273 274 260 288
Silva 9226 5460 481 531 506 505 480 530
red 22422 5460 1433 1582 1507,5 1507 1432 1582
Sassy 9765 6090 494 546 520 524 498 550
red 22422 6090 1402 1548 1475 1484 1410 1558
Trainer 1* 3668 6090 57 61 59 61 58 64

=> good enough for me (for now)

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Iā€™m interested in the answer here too! I seem low on some crafting items compared to others (of the same rarity). Or maybe it is simply I have crafted certain items more than others.

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Do we know for sure that Dragonspire opens new map levels every month or are we assuming so because that is what they have done in the past?

This is also the first one where there is no visible countdown timer so it leaves open the possibility that SG is working on another/a different time line.

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Itā€™s my assumption too. We see area 4 in beta now so we know itā€™s not too far away.

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V71 will be released next week, and forced the week after.

I guess these new areas will open 2 weeks from now.

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Thank you @PlayForFun & @Ruskin505

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Which level gives u most of these? I cant train because i am always out of em.

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Iā€™ve been farming 3/8 for ease, and 3/10 and have had plenty.
Using hatchery 1 (not 2) helps the feathers go further.

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Collecting them seems very random. I havenā€™t found any level that reliably produces more than any other. Having same problem always running out.

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Feathers have come at a rate to have allowed me to max a team of 4 3 *s and 1 4 *, which was achieved despite using fast with hatchery 2 for a while. and one team is as much as I can use at present.

Iā€™ve not heard of breakdowns of loot for dragonspire areas being mentioned though I know that @Ruskin505 asked a similar question early on.

Players with good pulls including 5* and 4* dragons may still have lots of levelling to do,

For me, Iā€™ll hold out for better prospects by filling my roster with feeders and, once done, starting to feed 1 *s to unlevelled 3 *s.

If I donā€™t have hatchery 10 open by this time, I might make use of hathery 3-7 to try to get some better 3*s to work with.

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Iā€™ve tried several stages in area 3, didnā€™t see any that were obviously better or worse than others. But thatā€™s just based on a few observations, to really know that would take a bigger data collection effort (by the community, probably). Loot overall looks better in area 3 than lower ones so as long as youā€™re farming there, youā€™re probably doing about the best you can do for now. Weā€™ll see when more areas open upā€¦

Because I could reliably do 3-1 using auto-play, thatā€™s where Iā€™ve been farming, common feather drops are random like anywhere else but it can be 0, 1 or 2 at a time. So it seems to work well enough but I donā€™t think it will be enough to keep 2 hatcheries going continuously (using lvl 1 training).

I wish the idle chests would drop more of them. They always seem to have different kinds of feathers but I only remember seeing common ones dropped onceā€¦ maybe itā€™s just been unlucky.

Also I have been wondering, since Dragon world doesnā€™t have its own titans or wars, shouldnā€™t those things start dropping items/mats for Dragons nowā€¦? Would be nice anyway.

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