Domitia - my shiny new hero

You know, I noticed this. I used to think I really needed Li Xiu and/or Chao, but folks don’t seem too high on them, either. So there really aren’t many good options, are there? That’s part of the reason I’m thinking Poseidon to at least 2^60 (3^70 if I can get the orbs) and Onatel to 4^80 (which is why I’m saving the orbs). If the yellow four-star options suck, screw it. I’ll go straight to the yellow 5-stars that the RNG saw fit to bless me with!

That said, I’ve got about 900+ gems banked. As F2P, is it worth rolling the dice on Thursday to try and get Jackal in 3 pulls? I was originally thinking of saving them, finishing Atlantis (normal and hard, hopefully) next month, and then using coins and gems to make a crap ton of Atlantis pulls to try and get Proteus, Triton, Gadarius, and/or Wilbur (another Atlantis 5-star or HotM wouldn’t hurt my feelings either, obviously! :smile:).


Through trial and error, I’ve arrived at same conclusion. I’m finally working on 5s. I’m curious if I’m doing it correctly. Marjana took about 3.5 weeks to fully ascend. I used about 95% of all of my resources to get there running TC19, TC11, and TCx2. Eight farms maxed. Question, is there a better way? Seems like some teams get a HOTM and a few days later they have a fully ascended version. At my current rate, I won’t have a full 5 rainbow until 4th of July.

I always wondered why domitia was so disliked in purple when there are way worse(ahem…quintus) and while sartana is the sniper, I put dom as my number 2 purple for tc20. I have seen the poseidon debate and some argue joon is better(he’s the 1 5 I got from countless pulls). My tc20s (3, each have given 1 5* so far with a total of 60 attempts though more attempts on 1 camp than other 2. ) I’ve been collecting only when 10 results are finished so its like getting a 10x. I hope when I collect I find sartana or domitia there. I have the mats and I think sartana gets a slight edge (esp with joon) but is be happy to add her to my 5 star collection.
You also mentioned getting wu, Kiril, etc. I got them in pulls but since then I have gotten 2 more of each from tc20. Funny how I used to fantasize about 1 wu, now I have 3 and wonder what ro do with the dupes. Kiril dupes work in war. And you mentioned triton and gaderius. I have both and they work great together and with Kiril. The one 4 I really want is proteus. He fits the Atlantis family and using 3 bumps defense 15%. Good luck with your tc. It took me 34 tries to get a 5(khagan, then Vivica and Elena) but you got one early. Hope the keep showing up like that…

Yeah, it was funny. I was at McDonald’s after church with my 11-year-old nephew, who is in my alliance, and I told him, “Since I started my TC20, I’ve pulled three 3-stars, so I’m due.” Obviously, I meant for a 4-star, since the odds would roughly give you a 4-star every 4-5 pulls. When I hit the button and Domitia popped out. All I could do was laugh. Hope this doesn’t jinx me for a while.

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Now that’s what I call a…



Your yellow roster

Thank you for the compliment.

Your yellow hero situation is different from your purple hero situation ( edit: actually, I may be confusing you with another user ). This is why I always say “What else is in your roster”

One of the weird things about Empires is 4* 3.60 > 5* 2.60 > 3* 3.50. So Domitia 5* 2.60 will actually be more powerful than Tyrum 3* 3.50 and Balthazar 3* 3.50.

3* ascension items are 3x as plentiful as 4* ascension items so by the time you get the 6x Tabards and 8x Trap Tools for a 5* purple, you have 18x Trap Tools or 10x extra trap tools. You can use that to level two 4* heroes to 4* 4.70 or two 5* heroes to 4* 3.70 . If you had better options for 4* purple ( I am drowning in them so I have the problem of too many for my purple Hero XP ) but without better options, Domitia at 5* 3.70 might be your best bet.

Gem summons

Guardian Jackal gets all the attention ( for a lot of good reasons ) but Guardian Falcon is actually the more powerful hero at both 4* 3.60 and 4* 4.70 because his Elemental defense debuff affects up to 3 targets and his defense stat is comparable to a red 5* hero BEFORE you use emblems on him. With the addition of Wilbur to the game, Guardian Falcon is over powered.

I will keep doing three 1x summons per Guardians until I get Falcon. I would not mind a second Jackal or a second Falcon once I get a first one.

In fact I just power leveled the following rainbow team from 4* 4.50 to 4* 4.70 so I could put emblems on them for war- Tiburtus 4*+5, Jackal 4*+1 ( has to compete with Scarlett 4*+7 ), Kiril 4*+1 ( has to compete with Proteus 4*+7 ), Boldtusk 4*+5, Hansel 4*+1 ( has to compete with Rigard 4*+8 ).

Until I got Jackal and Joon, I used a 4* 4.70 and a 4* 3.60 Wu Kong in war. Not a lot of purple centers at my alliance level, or my Wu Kong 4* 3.60 would still be getting a lot of use.

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I actually wasn’t planning on collecting when it happened, I had been adding recruits to train but instead I hit the icon and started collecting. 3* karil came up and I couldn’t stop it so I had to go on. All 3s until number 9 which was my 3rd Kiril, last one up was khagan. I was happy. Tc20 worked…lol. Since I collected there, I went to others and collected. Next I collected and again all 3s with a 3rd Wu then last was Elena. Great! On last tc I collected and first up was actually Vivica, I hoped to see more but only 3s followed. But 3 5s in 1 day was fine by me. 2 reds wasn’t the greatest thing and Vivica is a great healer but I have joon waiting for 1 dart. So tomorrow when I collect hopefully there’s a nice sartana, domitia, magni or lianna waiting(or all of them!!!)

I like Gretel too. I think she is underrated because Hansel is better, but she is a very solid 4 star hero.


I would love falcon or jackal. I’m done Atlantis normal up to 25 and hard to 18. Not many coins left to get and I wish I saved for poseidon, Ariel, etc. I have gotten lucky with 4s from there with triton(3rd 4* after melendor and Kiril) and I just maxed gaderius who has great synergy with Kiril and triton except that Kiril overwrites gads attack down from 42% to 30%. Can’t seem to get proteus(got amoenna and danzaburo who isn’t that bad). I do have 1200 gems saved as I went from c2p to f2p. With my building pretty much done the only thing is the 30 daily gems I miss. If I do pull in guardians I will likely get owl…lol) But panther would be great, can’t win if don’t play.

I look at Panther and Red Hood as the icing on the Guardians/ Grimforest cake. Falcon, Hansel, Jackal, Gretel are the real treat, and much easier to get. Even though nothing in this game is guaranteed.


Interesting. Power is not my only consideration on leveling those two, though. Using Prisca in Rare challenge events sucks, so I’d like to have one or two actually good 3-star purples for that. (Too late for Guardians, unfortunately, where these would do me the most good.) I’m also not in good shape at all for either paladins (except Sonya) or wizards (except Onatel) so both of these would help in class trials. (By comparison, the two trials involving rogues like Domitia - Survival and Shadows - are two of the only three I’m already completing with the roster I have.) And who knows what I’ll need for raid tournaments that are limited to 3-stars? If it comes up the one where healing doesn’t work, that makes Prisca even more useless, and I don’t have a purple backup for that case. Still, It’s good to know that a 2^60 Domitia would be preferable to a 3^50 3-star when it comes time for war, where I’m still building bench depth.

Using that same principle, though, gives me justification to take Poseidon to 2^60 before leveling Kailani and Gan Ju. I’m in about equally bad shape for fighters, monks, and clerics (maybe worse on clerics, but Mneusses is my next green project). So if a 5-star 2^60 is better than a 3-star 3^50, Poseidon at 2^60 would be my second-best fighter class hero, only behind Valen because he is heavily emblemed. Plus, he’d be my third best available yellow unless I leveled a second Danzaburo, so he also builds war depth, even at 2^60.

So you’d vote for using my gems this week, even for only three pulls, for the chance to get Jackal or Falcon? Good to know. I haven’t run across that many of either of them at my raiding level, so I didn’t know that were that good. Certainly better to burn gems in hopes of getting either of two event 4-stars than trying a fool’s errand like trying to get Guin on three pulls!

This is what I was thinking. If the yellow 4-star options are that sparse, seems like you could have multiple Wu Kongs for multiple war teams, especially since (for me anyway) those last couple of flags end up being “hail Marys” anyway. Load up on buffers like Wu Kong, Melia, Brienne, etc. and hope to set off a nice combo.

Best of luck to you. In evaluating which classic 5-star blue I thought I’d most like, I concluded that Magni would be best. Glad to see you seem to agree with that. Makes me feel better about my evaluation skills.

Because I have more need in green, I’d like Hansel, but I certainly wouldn’t be unhappy with Gretel. Mana control, FTW!


Yes, I would. The odds of getting Jackal or Falcon are much higher than getting Proteus or Wilbur (because they’re the only event 4*). These are the only heroes (currently) with -holy and -fire debuffs, which makes them very valuable in all sorts of circumstances. You will find Jackal+Poseidon as a one-two shot will kill just about any hero. They are not usually on defense because their special really ought to be paired with a strong hitter or two of the same color, but color-stacking on defense is unusual (and the AI can be stupid in playing it).

This depends a lot on who you ask. Domitia has had two nice buffs: first widening her dispel from target to target+nearby, and recently increasing her damage nicely. A lot of longer-term players locked in an impression of her as hopelessly under-powered, and we’ve had a hard time updating that POV to the current reality. Quintus—hmm, if you’ve ever been on the receiving end of an Isarnia/Quintus one-two, you’d have a different opinion.


Hadn’t thought of it that way. I thought it was great that I needed a lot of Atlantis heroes, so I should get one of the ones I need, but I could also get another Ameonna (or ANOTHER Danzaburo), and that would suck. And even if I just get a regular four-star from the summon, there are a lot of good ones I don’t have yet.

Uh, yeah. I’m thinking that would be the case. Yikes! C’mere, Kashrek, you stupid little gecko. I got a present for you. (I know that’s probably laughable to higher level players, but I’m still at the point that I really hate Kashrek tanks. I can take them, but they are really annoying.)

the AI can will be stupid in playing it.

Fixed it for you. This is why I still tank Danzaburo instead of Onatel. You can’t screw up Danzaburo’s special. I’ll swap to Onatel after the ascension, but probably not until.

I hope a lot of that is what was at play in this thread. So she used to be dispel target only? Ugh. That would be terrible. Probably half of why I use Melendor and Sabina’s dispels right now is Boril and Cyprian. Dispel target would be suicide.


Yes, Dom is good. I have Khiona but i like Domitia more. She’s very useful. She’s been in my defence couple of months now and i ripped the emblems away from Khiona and gave them to my sweet lovely sniper lady :slight_smile:


This is awesome logic. Multiple use is the best use.

Kailini is very niche. Gunnar ( almost a 4* Defense stat - better than glass cannon Grimm at 4* 4.70 ), Wilbur and Aegir have much wider uses.

Gan Jun is under powered as a 3* single target mana reduction, like all single target mana reduction, ( I keep pushing for 40% mana reduction for him and 50% for 4*, 60% for 5*, but no luck so far ).

Unlike multiple Banes ( I have three for war ), a Poseidon 5* 2.60 will be useful when you eventually level him to 5* 3.70 ( there are not a lot of yellow 4* snipers for war ) and possibly 5* 4.80 ( depends on your roster, my Isarnia keeps getting knocked down the list as I get other blues besides Kiril and my triple Grimms ).

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That’s quite the team you have there, @Nordjevel, at least compared to mine at the moment. If someone with a team like that still finds her useful, I feel lots better!

I believe we are kindred spirits, sir! Currently looking for time to lay out who I can use for what on a spreadsheet so I can decide which 3 stars can become food. Since picking up sorcerers Skittleskull and Ameonna, I think Graymane is gonna be toast. (Sucks that I maxed him, though.) Same with Renfeld now that I have another fighter in Poseidon. Once I level Tyrum, I think I’ll have just enough paladin depth to deep-six Prisca. (Hmm, three self-healers that are all garbage. Are you paying attention, SGG? These heroes are terrible.) I know I’ll eventually have to buy more hero capacity, but perhaps today is not (yet) that day!

I didn’t get either of the spirit linkers nearly as early as I would have needed to for them to be really useful. Leveling Gunnar now for 3-star raid tournament use. Kinda wondering what a Brienne, Melia, Gunnar combo might be able to do there. Yet another reason to put off leveling Kailani. I can’t imagine she’ll make a huge difference in cleric trials, even with spirit link. Maybe I’ll just roll with Hawkmoon and Mneusses until someone like Boril shows up; then Kailani’s fish food!

Good luck with that push; I think it would be a good change. I’ve only ever used Gan Ju in late stages of war when I want to use his mana cut to keep a healer from firing so I can do more damage before I flee. I will probably keep him for that purpose for a while, and may eventually level him for that reason. His cut by itself isn’t that great, but if I team him with Azar and Carver, it can make a little difference.

Yes, and I am looking forward to this. I suppose I could find someone that would knock him out of being next in line for orbs/darts, but given the entirety of this thread, it’s looking pretty doubtful! I so want there to be a Poseidon avatar for beating Atlantis. I would switch to it ASAP.

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Avatar is Ariel ( you can click on the Missions >> Complete Season 2 ( outline of a head with a ? ) >> Avatar Ariel appears. In fact you can do this for any reward outline of a head with a ?

Ugh. Didn’t notice that. Maybe for completing hard mode, then. Another mission that unlocks after you finish Complete Season 2. Hope springs eternal (until it is dashed, I suppose).

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I would really recommend against this. I know its only a 3* but you will get nowhere near the return using a max 3* as what you put in. I did it early on and ate a max friar tuck. Granted I have better healers etc but with war and raid challenges and trials i would love to have him back.

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