I have played this game for a couple of years now and at first it was mind blowing. I was completely over thinking things and looking to develop what I thought was a much needed game skill like you have in chess.
However, there is very little skill involved, other than knowing your hero roster, stats, special skills and how to work and play the board ie make diamonds etc.
Most high level players stay at that level because of the strength of their “top” 5* heroes etc.
But even then, every team you build, even with Heroes at +20 emblems and full strength troops (30) can be beaten by much weaker teams both in raids and in war.
So in a nutshell- luck plays a huge part in winning any battles
Obviously RNG plays a huge factor, because even if you remove 100 tiles and get a massive cascade, it doesn’t mean you’re going to get the colours you need. In fact, many times I have had this happen and just got MORE of the exact colours I have got rid of and no new ones that I need.
However, there is a tactfulness to it too, because if you take out the heroes in the “wrong” order, you could easily lose.
I will try get rid of Snipers or Mana Controllers/Blockers before I take out healers or someone like Wilbur. Killing someone who can hit multiple or all enemies is also a big tactic versus killing just single hitter. If there was Ursena and Sartana on the same team, although Sartana is fast, i’d want to kill Ursena first. Obviously this really does all depend on the lineup and what board you have, who’s special on the opponents side is ready to fire (or almost) as well as your own specials that are ready.
So in short: yes, you do need to use some tactics.
This thread keeps hitting the top of my “latest” list
So gonna bite then mute
If players & alliances would track stats over time in raids & wars, not only of themselves but fellow players & teammates for comparisons they would find the answer themselves if the game involves skill or not
Literally all it takes and the 3 yrd old debate(s) would be put to rest
You would think that building your team up so strong with all that time and effort it took you should make a difference hey, but it doesnt, to me there is so much luck involved in this game its not funny and lower level teams shouldnt have much of a chance to beat you.
I get up some days and check my game and see ive lost to teams that are over 500 below my team score and it just makes you shake your head and say, whats the use in building your team up strong for.
So you are not at a disadvantage when you take on similarly powerful or more powerful opponents.
Who cares who beats you in raids? I beat teams about 500tp above me consistently because - I have no choice! That is what is dished out to me. And on the plus side it gives me practice for war matchups.
Oh but if it really does bother you so much - I feel I should also let you know that if yours is a 4.6K+ GTV team then it is likely my 4.1K team with Noor in it was one of the ones that gave you a smack down.
I think those claiming it’s all or mostly luck are discounting a great deal of skill. As @JonahTheBard said, try playing with the top of the screen covered, or emulating auto play. If your win rate is anywhere close to the same then, yes, you are playing without skill.
But most good players don’t do that. How can you explain @IvyTheTerrible’s 90% win rate in raids by saying it’s all luck? Or people who commonly hit for 100k+ on 14* Titans?
For myself, I’m nowhere near either of those, but I’ve been consistently higher cups than others in my alliance with stronger teams. I have a far better win rate too. I know people who are relieved if they get 2 wins in 6 raids — I’m angry if that happens.
Is there a luck element? Sure. And there is in poker too. But just as with poker, you can intentionally lose. Try to do that with a slot machine.
If luck was 80% - or even 60% - of the equation, then getting a win rate of over 60% would not be possible over any sustained period of time.
Recovering from a bad board requires skill.
Synnergising your teams requires skill.
Playing boards in general requires skill - knowing the % chances of getting a particular color match off every move so you can take calculated risks.
Having a good understanding of how much mana will fill each of your opponents for each move vs how much mana you will gain, and who will be left standing at the end of it - requires skill and a good deal of experience
Choosing targets requires skill.
Timing and holding of skills requires skill. Especially with some of the new mechanics being introduced (I juggle Proteus, Lady Loki, Grazul and C Rigard on my team - every time a skill charges up I have to make a judgment call on when/who/how to use for maximum effect/not hindering other specials/keeping my team alive. Its actually quite a delicate balance a lot of the time.
For my team killing Tel is only 1/4 of the battle. Because I come in with such a big TP disadvantage I need to maintain the constant run of tiles in order to keep my team alive and ensure a victory - even one mistake can cost me the win. That is why whenever someone questions my use of Noor and her speed - in a winning match I would typically cast Noor 2, 3 or 4 times because that is how long I need to keep my guys alive while at the same time killing off my opponents.
I have a couple of videos on the Noor is OP thread, but I will find a fresh video to share now she is maxed (soon to be emblemed).
I run her with C Rig, Proteus, Lady Loki and Grazul for around an 80% win rate. She is not the star of the team, but she complements the others very nicely and is a better fit for that team than any of my other reds (I don’t have any other superstar reds). She definitely contributes to the team winning and is not just a filler.
The randomness is EXACTLY why you get benefit in building up your teams. A bad board will wipe out a weak team very quickly. A bad board will wipe out a medium team a little bit slower, giving more time to recover. A bad board will take a while to wipe out a strong team, giving even more time to recover. By strengthening your team you are giving yourself more and more chances to win each matchup. And I mean the combination of defense/health, attack, mana speed, special etc - it all plays into the definition of strong - not just being able to survive longer.
If people knew how casino systems work, they would not be talking about RANDOMNESS here and E&P follows exactly the entire casino system and the situation got worse after the purchase by Zynga. Let’s wake up.
I run 3 reds and 2 purples - is there a maximum number of starting purple and red tiles you want to see? I don’t want to share a video and then hear back that “you won because of tiles”
Nah man because I know your type. I’m just good off the nonsense. Keep doing your thing. You’re obviously crushing life with your bare hands every day.
I know BS when I hear it. A few videos ain’t swaying my opinion jack. You cant provide the data in a meaningful and easily authenticated way that could support the baldacious claim of an 80 percent win rate against 4600 GTV defenses with sub 4.1k teams. No way. Over 50 percent sure. Heck I’d even give 60-70 percent. Higher end would be pushing it. You ain’t winning 4 out of 5 on a regular basis given your parameters.
So when I said “forget it”, I meant it. I’m dropping the matter and moving on from this post.
