Damage Calculation

[Papca]

Hey guys,

in this discussion are piling up arguments, that the original formula: 100 * TileD * ((θ * AttackSum / DefenseSum) ^ 1.35) * ( ColorBonus + Crit) is not working any more.

It becomes clear that HIGH expected damages according to this formula are in fact lower. Sometimes much lower.

1. Zack’s measurements and graphs

@Zack

The damage with my Leonidas, Magni and Caedmon over the last 2 weeks or so seems lower than what the curve in the initial post shows. I’ve collected some data (the values for damage and the attack and defense values of the heroes when you click on them during the raid battle) and put the two together. This is how it looks (I hope the upload works):

2. yelanta’s measurement regarding ramming pulverizer (it is only 45% increase and not 75% as expected based on the formula)

@yelnats_24

I’m a little bit confused regarding the effect of ramming pulverizer -34% defense, shouldn’t it result in:

(1/(1-0.34)^1.35 = 1.752x damage or 75% increase?

After some discussion in Anzgogh thread, I collect small data while farming. I compare Scarlett 4/50 skill damage against boss of S1:5-4 (the left one) with or without -34 def down:

|#|Normal|34% def debuff|

| — | — | — |

|Average|748|1085|

|1|742|1115|

|2|754|1054|

|3||1086|

Actual increase = 45%

It’s closer to calculation without exponents which have 52% increase

3. Willbur – Falcon stack is around 2x not 6x as would be expected

@Dandaniel1234

The relationship between debuffs seems additive rather than multiplicative and

for targets debuffed by both Wilbur and Falcon the damage Anzogh (or other reds)

would do is 1+0.791+0.636=2.427

I know it’s more than doubled, but it’s not even close to 6 times or even triple

4. Boldusk’s buff is increasing Caedmon special only from 450 to 550.

@yelnats_24

I compare my Caedmon’s special skill multiple times with and without Boldtusk’s +48% attack buff against Dark Lord. But it only increase from around 450 to 550…

So it becomes important issue to find the correct up-to-date formula, right?