Cheating, trophy dropping , not fixed!

Trophy counts have absolutely nothing to do with war matchmaking, nor should they.

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The alliance score is dependent only on trophy score and titan score. The war matchmaking is purely based on the war score which takes into account the top 30 heroes and troops of each individual member of the alliance who are opted in for war. So no matter what people do in raids or what level titan they hit, players cannot hide their heroes or troops from the alliance score algorithm. Just look at the alliance scores and you will see what I mean. :slight_smile:

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War score is also highly dependent on previous war performance. My alliance regularly beats alliances with higher “alliance” scores than ours, and when we win, our war score goes up and theirs goes down, and vice versa.

Yes, that is true. When you win or lose a war, there is an additional points which is added or subtracted from the war score. This is done so that no alliance continues to win or lose too many matches. This is a very nice algorithm and I like it. Otherwise strong alliances will keep on winning forever, and weak alliances will never have chance to win. :slight_smile:

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They actually aren’t admitting to cheating, as I read that message. Rather, they are suggesting that you all are the ones who cheat, but are not cheating effectively enough. It looks like you all are flaming each other via banner, though, so it’s hard to interpret without seeing the whole sequence of messages.

In any event, “naming and shaming” is against the forum rules. You’ll want to edit that picture to blur or block out the name of your opponent, then repost.

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This is how war scores are calculated

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Don’t know how to edit, sorry I posted name. They kept saying we should trophy drop so we could win.

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No worries. @Kerridoc, @Zephyr1, or @Rook can help here :slight_smile:

They were just trying to rile you up with what they said. Trophy dropping has no in-game benefits beyond being able to fill your Wanted: Heroes chest faster.

Sounds like a really frustrating loss, and like your opponents were behaving like real jerks. I hope your next matchup is a lot better and more pleasant.

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They may think it has something to do with the match ups, too.

No matter how many times it’s stated, there are plenty that STILL believe cup dropping gives easier war matchups. :roll_eyes:

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I would go so far to say the majority think this.

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As @Garanwyn said, the only benefit to trophy dropping is to fill hero chests faster. A few of my alliance members do that and I don’t discourage it, because in the grand scheme of things, trophy count and alliance score don’t matter unless you’re trying to reach a higher ranking. It has nothing to do with wars, though. The only thing that matters in a war is scoring more points than your opponent, and the best way to do that is by making sure that every member has at least 30 heroes, that they use all war flags, and they use them wisely.

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I’ve said it so many times
I believe it is fixed from the start
Or has it never happened that Many alliance members get completely crap boards and opponent all 1 shot kills and viceversa as long as you don’t loose all the time it’s win some loose some and that’s ok !!!
So with the first few hits I can usually tell which way the game decided this will go and take it more or less serious !!
dropping cups is pointless just that you get less from hero chest same as people who put a weaker defence team to revenge easy lol cowardly !!!
Ohh and btw I fill chests fine without dropping what’s the fun in fighting without a challenge !!

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Here’s a pixelated version of that pic:

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I removed the images, thanks! :heart_decoration:

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TY, thats very sweet of you to say. We do not trophy drop nor try to cheat in any way. We like to have fun.
Yes, I should have been the grownup here and just ignored the banners they sent. But my teammates were very frustrated.

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Don’t let your opponent have the psychological advantage!

They were purposely trying to throw you off your game. We have fun with our banner during the wars. On the rare occasion the opponent gets immature, or too serious with it and that’s when we simply change ours back to our normal description and ignore what theirs says.

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TY for removing images, did not know how. As I said, I should not have let them goad me into a war of words. You guys are great here. I have had my alliance
Justice Southern Style for over
2 years and we have a lot members been there since I started alliance.
We just want to have fun with war.
TY all for the helpful information.
Have a Blessed day!:smiley:

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I think one of the prime reasons for this is that whenever a war matchmaking happens and a person clicks to see the opponent the first thing that catches the eye is the alliance score. The problem is that majority players never click that small ‘?’ to see more details. So the moment they see it is higher than theirs they get demotivated.

I feel that SG should put this info somewhere in the war tab or the war tutorial so that this confusion stops occurring. I also feel they should also give a summoning tutorial to new players where they show the probabilities of the possible summons. I feel this will lead to a lot more transparency and less rage quits or demotivations. :slight_smile:

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For a very long time the alliance score was the main factor in the match making, so a lot of alliances/players got into the habit of using it as a basis for comparison. Some alliances/players never did see the updated information and are usually surprised to realise it’s been changed.

I agree there should be a better way to make this information prominent. In the meantime, it’s become the responsibility of the forum community to help alliances/players understand the new match making system.

Hopefully it can be done respectfully. There is no point beating a person up just because they are acting on old information.

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