I also canāt believe that she doesnāt summon any minions and all other in Santaās family does, even 3*. This must be some joke or what?!
Sorcerer IF emblemed? I know the list of the good Sircerers are short but she is 100% NOT good enough to get the emblems since the talent only fire if direct damage or tile damage has been doneā¦
The bomb is a Dotā¦ (as far as I knowā¦ Iām probably wrongā¦ I admit thisā¦)
So if the bomb is a Dot than no Sorcerer talent for you from the Gifts ā¦ Oh, and also no bonus from Boldtuskā¦
I got 2 Carol (along with 2 Rudolph) from my 10 pull this morning. Iām happy enough with her she isnt on the immediate level list but it gives me a mana control option in red I didnāt have previously.
She would also makes the minions stronger she gets from Buddy. So place her next to Buddy when using both on the same team.
And if her talent skill manages to kick in sheās in business, Doesnāt matter who the enemy is.
You got to work with what you have though. If your best sorcerer is skittles then you use her. Sheās the only 4 star to have these mana controlling qualities and is fairly accessible. I think the best path for her is just attack/ health so her dot strengthens and her health reaches to 1500+
She needs to at least summon one minion for herself though. maybe they think sheāll be too powerful at her level if she summons minions, but come on this is a winter hero where the niche is everyone summons elf minions
Just pulled her and at first I got excited but not after reading this threadā¦ Welp I got hansel so not gonna level her anytime soon
She is so underwhelming, may actually be the worst seasonal epic hero of them all. I donāt even know where to start.
- If she dealt 312 dmg to 3 instantly, it would still be mediocreā¦ fact you have to wait 3 turns for that to take effect, hoping you wonāt get wiped, enemy wonāt be healed or cleansed in the progress etc is just silly.
- Reducing mana at fast speed is decent, but it doesnāt make a hero. If it was reducing mana of 3, it could be justified, but of 1?
- And how come she doesnāt summon minions, literally having a family bonus that enhances the minions?
Sad hero. Especially with so many decent epic reds, even among the S1s.
I agree with everyone that she is underwhelmingā¦
She can be as Merlin/Hansel, maybe at fast speed reduce mana 100% which is I think not OP.
Iām not going to be crazy about nonsense but honestly who thought it a good idea to say that carol a Christmas hero gives a bomb gift
nobody but really nobody seemed to him that he is a little insensitive
I mean the new hero is literally a Christmas terrorist
personally I would have put a punishment package
Iād have to agree. The most insulting thing is that you could have gotten Buddy instead.
Itās difficult to think of a situation where Iād take her rather than any other redā¦ or even Chao.
While I donāt love Carol, I think you both are undervaluing her. I realized I wasnāt sure how much damage a 4 star sniper like Chao, Triton, Kelile actually does and how that compared to 312. So I did a raid test.
Hereās how my 4 stars (at 4/70 for comparison to Carolās 312) compare:
Kelile on Wu+9: 418
Chao on Wu+9: 356
Triton on Zim: 457
Kelile on Zim (with Kashrek buff): 237
Chao on Zim: 350
Kelile on Zim: 420
Chao on Boril+18: 299
Triton on Kashrek+18: 458
Triton on Kashrek+18: 446
Kelile on Kashrek+18 with buff: 235
Chao on Kashrek+18: 324
Chao on Rigard+18: 355
Triton on Rigard+18: 434
In a couple of cases, my fast snipers did less than 312 damage up front. That does not mean I always want Carolās damage to three to occur three turns later, but it is clear her damage three turns later can be more beneficial than the up front damage.
While Chao is not the best hero, there are situations where youād rather do delayed damage to three than his upfront damage. The mana cut helps prevent the cleanse.
As many have pointed out, she is a sorcerer so itās more likely to add emblems to her than other heroes; thus, increasing her value.
Iād say sheās slightly worse than Chao because most of the time Iād rather have the direct damage, but she has value.
As for potentially worse 4 star seasonal event heroes: Jabbar tops my list. Somehow I have 2 of him though :(.
Triton has an enormous attack stat and a useful ability.
Carolā¦man. Iām not even sure sheād be saved if her bombs stacked, which, they totally should.
And give her a minion. Has anyone mentioned that yet?
I donĀ“t think anyone mentioned itā¦ Did you guys noticed that Carol doesnĀ“t produce any minions?
Now, seriously, this must be fixed otherwise she doesnĀ“t belong to the family
Well what you do not take into consideration is that with certain buffs/debuffs you can increase the damage of the snipers quite significantly, and 312 will always be 312 (well perhaps with troops and emblems can get to 400). But yea, perhaps I over-exaggerate there a bit - against heroes with high defenses fixed amount of dmg might be somewhat usefulā¦ still waiting for it 3 turns is not.
Only if you target the cleanser. Which is usually high priority, but tank is even higher.
Maybe for some, but I have Mitsuko and two Almurās. M is already +20. And, frankly, Iād consider putting emblems on a 3 before her, sheās just that bad.
Agree completely, and thatās the issue. Chao is already lackluster (except for costume). Her being worse is just damning.
Mine too. And sheās worse. Consider this ā Jabbar does similar damage (between direct and dot), self cleanses, and at least his debuff canāt be cleansed.
Hit a cleric with this and you can potentially do zero damage. Not even mana drain.
Oh, and she doesnāt create a minion.
Also one original idea I just miraculously thought upā¦she should probably at least spawn a minion for herself.
Fast speed mana control is nice but itās a shame that she breaks away from the other xmas heroes by not summoning minions. But maybe having a fast speed minion summoner who also cuts mana and throws a bomb might be too strong?
They shouldāve made her summon minions that throw gift bombs that do like 75 dmg after 3 turns or something.
Does anyone know if her gift bombs stack? Can i send someone multiple bomb gifts? Will a new one replace the old one (reset the timer to 3 turns again?)
Sorry, so many questionsā¦ i was excited to get herā¦ but now im not sure she has a place even in my 4* mono red stackā¦
They donāt. Just like any other buff it overwrites itself. And doesnāt go off when it happens.
I think we donāt have a 4 star mana reducer in red. Am I correct ? So basically EP gave me one in that color . Mana reducers are mostly
In yellows on 4 star Heroās Hansel is not a mana reducer and heās also not a red hero. Soā¦ in tournements i combine mana reducer and wizards . Li, almur, Chester cat, think Carol will be a good asset to the bloody tournament team I created and am rather successful. So yes I think I will max her for the fun of it