Sekhmet is more useful. I got this douchebag for free but i think sniper not worth to level anymore. Would be nice if he hits target 450 and minor damage nearby.
Look at Tetisheri for example.
Sekhmet is more useful. I got this douchebag for free but i think sniper not worth to level anymore. Would be nice if he hits target 450 and minor damage nearby.
Look at Tetisheri for example.
I’m regret that I pulled him.
I’m sure that if people has chance they will pick tetisheri or Sekhmet over Bonecrusher.
I found him simple sniper.
He needs a good buff and rebalance.
Make him at least 450 target and minor damage nearby. I think he should be unique hero not simple sniper.
Why that green made very well but this one is useless?
Don’t feed the troll people
Too funny to think that sekhmet is better than bonecrusher
Probably they are not thinking that, but just want to get some reactions
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It’s a shame he doesn’t remove the hero’s bonuses before casting his special skill
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One of the top100 has a maxed lbed Bonecrusher with 1049 attack.
Assumptions:
Bonecrusher with +26% attack bonus from troops
all allies still alive
Target with 1100 defense (troop bonus included).
For the attacking team I expect as damage something like
buff/debuff | Attack | Defense | min damage | avg damage | max damage |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
8723 | 1100 | 1302 | 1371 | 1439 | |
+30% attack | 9120 | 1100 | 1366 | 1438 | 1510 |
-34% defense | 8723 | 726 | 1609 | 1694 | 1778 |
applied formula:
[25.5 x 1321 x 660% / 1100 + 0.0385 x (1321 x 660% – 0.93 x 1100)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1302|1371|1439 (avg|min|max)
Fought one maxed recently after my question. I had killed 2 of his allies before he fired. He did 720 damage or so. I wasn’t terribly impressed.
He’s meant to be a suicide tank anyways. Where was he placed?
i have tested mine, he is not fully maxed yet so a little bit of attack is missing
summary he hits very hard, i am happy with him.
is he the hardest hitting fast hero in the game at the moment?
Elkanen with 1160 defense
Bonecrusher lvl 82 full with lvl 17lvl mana troop attack
No buffs or debuffs
34def debuff
finley 56% def debuff
48% attack from boldtusk
with 48% attack buff, 20% attack passive, %15 attack on weaker element buff and finley 56% def debuff
fully maxed higher troop more than 2k damage seem feasible.
Last one was even with one dead ally.
He isn’t meant for defense, but that does seem low.
Thank you very much for the testing and the data!
Looks like only few (already slightly damaged) heroes will survive a hit from Bonecrusher when they have a -34 defense debuff or worse.
I’ll check against the formula (to check the formula):
|attack buff/debuff|Attack|Defense|defense buff/debuff|min damage|avg damage|max damage|actual damage|
attack buff | Attack | Defense | defense debuff | min damage | avg damage | max damage | actual damage |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1259 | 1105 | +5 | 1203 | 1267 | 1330 | 1331 | |
1259 | 1105 | +5-34 | 1486 | 1565 | 1643 | 1618 | |
1259 | 1105 | +5-56 | 1871 | 1970 | 2068 | 1833 | |
+48 | 1259 | 1105 | +5 | 1299 | 1368 | 1436 | 1423 |
+48+15+20 | 1259 | 1105 | +5-56 | 2026 | 2133 | 2240 | 1994 |
Formula seems fine except for the -56% defense debuffs. If I simply subtract the debuffs, it works better:
attack buff | Attack | Defense | defense debuff | min damage | avg damage | max damage | actual damage |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1259 | 1105 | +5-34 | 1467 | 1545 | 1622 | 1618 | |
1259 | 1105 | +5-56 | 1806 | 1902 | 1997 | 1833 | |
+48+15+20 | 1259 | 1105 | +5-56 | 1956 | 2059 | 2162 | 1994 |
details with applied formula:
[25.5 x 1259 x 660% / (1105 x (1 + 5%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x 660% – 0.93 x 1105 x 1.05)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1203|1267|1330 (avg|min|max)
[25.5 x 1259 x (630% +48% +15% +20%) / (1105 x (1 +5%) x (1 -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48% +15% +20%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5%) x (1 -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 2056|2133|2240 (avg|min|max)
formula with subtracted defense debuff:
[25.5 x 1259 x (630% +48% +15% +20%) / (1105 x (1 +5% -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48% +15% +20%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5% -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1956|2059|2162 (avg|min|max)
i tested the maximum case again without dead heros and reached 2030 damage.
Is that with +48% attack? Or with +48% and +20% and +15% attack?
With +48% attack I get 1941|2044|2147 (avg|min|max) versus the actual 2030 damage.
calculation:
[25.5 x 1259 x (660% +48%) / (1105 x (1 +5% -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5% -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1941|2044|2147 (avg|min|max)
it was with 48+ 15+15 (two stacks)
Okay, with +48% +15% +15% attack I get 2026|2133|2240 (avg|min|max) versus the actual 2030 damage.
calculation:
[25.5 x 1259 x (660% +48% +30%) / (1105 x (1 +5% -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48% +30%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5% -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 2026|2133|2240 (avg|min|max)
Watched the first 3 fights. I would not say that Bonecrusher is not useful, but the winning was ensured more by the other heroes in what I saw. I was impressed though of how nicely you played rainbow, hope that I will manage to get there myself at one point.