🐵 Bonecrusher – 5* Fire / Red from Jungle Hunters

Sekhmet is more useful. I got this douchebag for free but i think sniper not worth to level anymore. Would be nice if he hits target 450 and minor damage nearby.

Look at Tetisheri for example.

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I’m regret that I pulled him.

I’m :100: sure that if people has chance they will pick tetisheri or Sekhmet over Bonecrusher.

I found him simple sniper.

He needs a good buff and rebalance.

Make him at least 450 target and minor damage nearby. I think he should be unique hero not simple sniper.

Why that green made very well but this one is useless?

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Don’t feed the troll people

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Too funny to think that sekhmet is better than bonecrusher

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Probably they are not thinking that, but just want to get some reactions

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Cest dommage qu’il ne supprime pas les bonus du heros avant de lancer sa compétence Preformatted textspéciale

It’s a shame he doesn’t remove the hero’s bonuses before casting his special skill

Please use English in this part of the forum

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One of the top100 has a maxed lbed Bonecrusher with 1049 attack.

Assumptions:
Bonecrusher with +26% attack bonus from troops
all allies still alive
Target with 1100 defense (troop bonus included).

For the attacking team I expect as damage something like

buff/debuff Attack Defense min damage avg damage max damage
8723 1100 1302 1371 1439
+30% attack 9120 1100 1366 1438 1510
-34% defense 8723 726 1609 1694 1778

applied formula:
[25.5 x 1321 x 660% / 1100 + 0.0385 x (1321 x 660% – 0.93 x 1100)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1302|1371|1439 (avg|min|max)

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Fought one maxed recently after my question. I had killed 2 of his allies before he fired. He did 720 damage or so. I wasn’t terribly impressed.

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He’s meant to be a suicide tank anyways. Where was he placed?

i have tested mine, he is not fully maxed yet so a little bit of attack is missing

summary he hits very hard, i am happy with him.
is he the hardest hitting fast hero in the game at the moment?

Elkanen with 1160 defense

Bonecrusher lvl 82 full with lvl 17lvl mana troop attack

No buffs or debuffs

34def debuff


finley 56% def debuff

48% attack from boldtusk


with 48% attack buff, 20% attack passive, %15 attack on weaker element buff and finley 56% def debuff


fully maxed higher troop more than 2k damage seem feasible.

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Last one was even with one dead ally.

He isn’t meant for defense, but that does seem low.

Thank you very much for the testing and the data!

Looks like only few (already slightly damaged) heroes will survive a hit from Bonecrusher when they have a -34 defense debuff or worse.

I’ll check against the formula (to check the formula):
|attack buff/debuff|Attack|Defense|defense buff/debuff|min damage|avg damage|max damage|actual damage|

attack buff Attack Defense defense debuff min damage avg damage max damage actual damage
1259 1105 +5 1203 1267 1330 1331
1259 1105 +5-34 1486 1565 1643 1618
1259 1105 +5-56 1871 1970 2068 1833
+48 1259 1105 +5 1299 1368 1436 1423
+48+15+20 1259 1105 +5-56 2026 2133 2240 1994

Formula seems fine except for the -56% defense debuffs. If I simply subtract the debuffs, it works better:

attack buff Attack Defense defense debuff min damage avg damage max damage actual damage
1259 1105 +5-34 1467 1545 1622 1618
1259 1105 +5-56 1806 1902 1997 1833
+48+15+20 1259 1105 +5-56 1956 2059 2162 1994

details with applied formula:
[25.5 x 1259 x 660% / (1105 x (1 + 5%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x 660% – 0.93 x 1105 x 1.05)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1203|1267|1330 (avg|min|max)
[25.5 x 1259 x (630% +48% +15% +20%) / (1105 x (1 +5%) x (1 -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48% +15% +20%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5%) x (1 -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 2056|2133|2240 (avg|min|max)

formula with subtracted defense debuff:
[25.5 x 1259 x (630% +48% +15% +20%) / (1105 x (1 +5% -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48% +15% +20%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5% -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1956|2059|2162 (avg|min|max)

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i tested the maximum case again without dead heros and reached 2030 damage.

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Is that with +48% attack? Or with +48% and +20% and +15% attack?

With +48% attack I get 1941|2044|2147 (avg|min|max) versus the actual 2030 damage.

calculation:
[25.5 x 1259 x (660% +48%) / (1105 x (1 +5% -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5% -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 1941|2044|2147 (avg|min|max)

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it was with 48+ 15+15 (two stacks)

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Okay, with +48% +15% +15% attack I get 2026|2133|2240 (avg|min|max) versus the actual 2030 damage.

calculation:
[25.5 x 1259 x (660% +48% +30%) / (1105 x (1 +5% -56%)) + 0.0385 x (1259 x (660% +48% +30%) – 0.93 x 1105 x (1 +5% -56%)] x 3 x 11/12 ±5% = 2026|2133|2240 (avg|min|max)

for those that say snipers play no role these days:

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Watched the first 3 fights. I would not say that Bonecrusher is not useful, but the winning was ensured more by the other heroes in what I saw. I was impressed though of how nicely you played rainbow, hope that I will manage to get there myself at one point.

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