Ascension Material Tracking and Comparison

Since 1.4.2018
Warm Cape 15
Hidden Blade 11
Trap Tools 13
Orb of Magic 18
Sturdy Shield 13
Compass 14
Fine Gloves 7
Damascus Blade 5
Tome of Tactics 3
Mystic Rings 5
Mysterious Tonic 4
Poison Darts 3
Farsight Telescope 3
Royal Tabard 5
119

My comedic data for the month so far:

7/2
Mystic Vision - s shield
7/6
Titan LT XIII (rare) - gloves
7/7
Mystic Vision - d blade

Update with the July numbers.

255 normal chests (127+128), 8 elemental chests (4+4).

Ascension objects in rare chest: 8 (50%)
Gold tokens of troop and / or heroes in rare chest: 3 (12,5%)
Ascension objects in normal chests: 8 (3,1%)
Gold tokens of troop and / or heroes in normal chests: 11 (4,3%)

And the acumulate in three months.

772 normal chests, 21 elemental chests

Ascension objects in rare chest: 25 (59,5%)
Gold tokens of troop and / or heroes in rare chest: 15 (23,8%)
Ascension objects in normal chests: 19 (2,5%)
Gold tokens of troop and / or heroes in normal chests: 29 (3,8%)

My July:

78 Monsters chests
52 Heros Chest
5 Titan Chests
5 Elemental Chests
25 Titans killed
9 wars won
39 Mystic Visions saw.

Monsters chests:
1 Ascencion Mat(AM) 3*
2 Heros token
1 World Energy Flask

Heroes Chests:
4 AM 3*
1 AM 4*
1 Hero Token

Titan Chests:
1 AM 4*
1 Titan Flask

Elemental chests:
5 AM 3*
1 AM 4*
2 Troop Tokens
3 Titans Flask
2 Raid Flask

Mystic Vision:
1 Titan Flask

Titan Loot:
7 AM 3*
1 World Energy Flask

War Loot:
3 AM 3*

So in a Month:
20 AM 3*
3 AM 4*
3 Heroes Token
2 Troop Token
5 Titan Flask
2 World Energy Flask
2 Raid Flask

3 AM’s in that month for wars? I got 2 AM’s in 4 months winning 70% of the wars. Lol

Good job on the posts.

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7/2
Mystic Vision - s shield
7/6
Titan LT XIII (rare) - gloves
7/7
Mystic Vision - d blade
Monster Chest - tabard
7/8
Holy Chest - tools
Titan LT XII - compass
Raid Diamond - tonic
7/9
Titan LT XII - tome
Shrikewood - s shield
7/10
Shrikewood - tonic
7/12
Titan LT XII - cape
Guardians - orb, h blade, cape
7/13
Titan LT XI - tools
Guardians - orb, compass
Ice Chest - tools, h blade
7/15
Titan LT XII - orb, orb
7/18
Raid Diamond - tools
Titan LT XIII (Rare) - tabard (bonus)
7/19
Monster Chest - d blade
Frostmarch - cape, scope
7/20
Titan LT XI - cape
7/22
Titan LT XII - cape
7/23
War Loot - s shield
7/24
Titan LT XII- tools, orb
7/25
Holy Chest - h blade
7/28
Titan LT XII - gloves, gloves
7/29
Farholme - gloves, tome
7/30
Titan LT XI - cape
7/31
Titan LT XII - s shield
Monster Chest - orb
Raid Diamond - cape

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I‘m on 0 mats for wars. Participated in every single one and won more than 50%…

That is ridiculous. What are the odds of that.

I started to follow up the loot only in july. I’ll make the same this month.

If you don’t include the purchased materials, I averaged about 1.3 unfarmable mat a day for the month of July. :+1:

The odds for normal quests got ridicolouse :-1:
They definitely nerved them :weary:

I believe that the odds of the normal chests have not changed, they have always been around 3%

But before people did not give much importance because other things (vision, elementary chest, titans) gave better prizes

I am quite sure that when I start over one year ago the materials from normal chests were much better. Unfortunately at that time I did not take any pictures :frowning:

Are you fighting 11’s now?

So I was at 1.29 AM’s/ day on July. So discouraged by the elemental chests that I have already slowed down my gem usage for chest timers.

@Bane
Thank you for your contribution. I might also track other notables because of your example.

If you are not interested in the exact source of non farmable ascension materials but only in the average gain, there is an easier way than keeping track of anything you collect as you collect it.

Requirements for this to work:

  • you don’t use 4A 4* and 3A or 4A 5* heroes as feeders.
  • you keep track only of materials you buy if you want to distinguish between f2p and bought mats.

The ratio is that any material you use to ascend your heroes remains in the ascended heroes, e.g. I have A4-70 Rigard, so I know I spent 4 trap tools, 1 glove and 1 compass on him as long as I don’t feed him to some other hero (Req.1).
So, if you just count your ascended 4* and 5* you know what you spent on them so far:
A4 4*: 4 color specific 3* mats, 1 glove, 1 compass
A3 5*: 4 color specific 3* mats, 1 glove, 1 compass
A4 5*: 8 color specific 3* mats, 1 glove, 1 compass, 6 color specific 4* mats, 1 tome of tactics, 1 damascus blade
If you just sum the spent mats to those you have in your inventory you know how many materials you got since you started playing. Do that for 2 distinct moments in time (let’s say 1st of August and 1st of September) and the difference between the 2 will be exactly how many mats you collected during August. From this total you can subtract the number of bought mats if you want to know the mats you gained just by playing (Req.2).

The main advantage in this approach is that one doesn’t need to constantly keep track of everything, so it requires less effort and it is a lot less error prone cause you simply can’t forget keeping note of titan loot or overlook 1 mat in a loot report.
Here is an example of a google spreadsheet where I track my mats (unfortunately I can’t remember when I started playing, so I set 21st of May which should be pretty close):

So it seems I got more or less 26 mats per month in my first 14 months or so, but in the last ten days I got about 1 mat per day, which I think is pretty honest for my gameplay: daily player, ~2 monster chests per day, ~1.5 raid chests per day (diamond league), killing 10* titans, playing AW with ~50% win rate, playing events but rarely in top 100, f2p (only spent a total of about 15 bucks to buy gems for event pulls).

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I decided to track my materials for August, and here’s what I got:

Summary

Total Ascension Materials: 32

3* Ascension Materials: 25

  • Gloves: 5
  • Compasses: 5
  • Trap Tools: 3
  • Orbs: 6
  • Capes: 1
  • Shields: 1
  • H Blades: 4

4* Ascension Materials: 7

  • D Blades: 1
  • Tomes: 0
  • Tabards: 1
  • Darts: 2
  • Scopes: 2
  • Tonics: 0
  • Rings: 1

Sources of Ascension Materials:

  • Monster Chests: 3
  • Hero Chests: 1
  • Titan Chests: 1
  • Elemental Chests: 2
  • Titans: 11
  • Rare Quests: 8
  • Events: 5
  • Mystic Vision: 1

Details

  • 8/3: H Blade from monster chest
  • 8/3: Gloves from 6* Titan (Tier IX)
  • 8/5: Orb from Shiloh 4
  • 8/5: Dart from Shiloh 5
  • 8/5: Cape from Platinum hero chest
  • 8/8: H Blade from monster chest
  • 8/9: Compass from 6* titan (Tier IX)
  • 8/9: Trap Tools from Avalon Epic Tier
  • 8/9: Compass from Avalon Epic Tier
  • 8/10: Shield from Avalon Legendary Tier
  • 8/10: H Blade from Avalon Legendary Tier
  • 8/10: Orb from Avalon Legendary Tier
  • 8/11: Dart from 6* Titan (Tier IX)
  • 8/12: Trap Tools from Morlovia 4
  • 8/12: Tabard from Morlovia 5
  • 8/14: Trap Tools from 5* Titan (Tier VII)
  • 8/14: Orb from elemental chest
  • 8/14: Gloves from elemental chest
  • 8/16: Gloves from monster chest
  • 8/17: Scope from 6* Unicorn (Tier IX)
  • 8/17: Orb from 6* Unicorn (Tier IX)
  • 8/17: Orb from 6* Unicorn (Tier IX)
  • 8/17: Gloves from mystic vision
  • 8/20: Compass from Farholme 4
  • 8/20: D Blade from Farholme 5
  • 8/21: Orb from titan chest
  • 8/23: Compass from 6* Titan (Tier IX)
  • 8/23: Scope from 6* Titan (Tier IX)
  • 8/28: Compass from 6* Titan (Tier VIII)
  • 8/29: Gloves from 7* Rooster (Tier IX)
  • 8/30: H Blade from Umber 4
  • 8/30: Rings from Umber 5
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Back at it again. August Tracking Results
Total Materials: 56 (6 Purchased/Atlantis)
3* Material: 44
4* Material: 12

Without including purchased materials I averaged 1.61 mat per day. Killing 11*/12* Titans, typically rank A or B.
Considering how little I need Orbs, I sure did get a lot of them (13).


Let me know if you see any errors.

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Update - August was pretty bad:

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My stats for August (none of them were purchased). I typically get loot tier IX on titans and am platinum rank for raids. I average 1 raid chest and 2 monster chests per day. All in all an average of 1.39 mats (tokens and flasks excluded) per day.

I got pissed with the dry spell so stopped tracking.

Haven’t tracked September but I don’t need to yet. Got 1 compass from a Rare 11* and warm cape yesterday from mystic vision. 10.5 days into the month and I found 2 AM’s which are both 3*.

Incredible!