I did not have this planned to do.
So you say ⊠they are both S1/Classic?! 
Uhm, they are different cards with different statistics, but they are both S1/Classic.
I never said they were the SAME, I said they are both S1/Classic.
They also mention the difference between Joon and Vivica, but they are both still S1/Classic.
I can provide links on how to formulate an argument if it would help.
lol, you sure are spending a lot of time on an old video and an old thread. I really suggest you no longer watch my content if it causes you this much concern. Really. Best wishes and happy gaming.
Umm mate thereâs a million threads talking about s1 being underpowered irrelevant. You thread title makes it seem you have an answer to those threads. This causes misunderstanding because all the other threads where a tooon of different people talk specifically about uncostumed s1 heroes that were available during season 1.
To aaaaall those people that have been forever discussing the relevance of s1 you title is clickbait. Everyone hates clickbait so they let you know they donât like it. All you have to do is change the title really but you clearly prefer to engage a whole crowd telling you what the community thinks about your video.
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You neglect to comment on this crucial part:
As you previously claimed that you adhere to their standards, why donât you follow this one too?
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It is a fact. Which doesnât make your point whatsoever. Nobodyâs denied that, along with the avalanche of utter nonsense youâve provided, there were some facts peppered in here and there.
The issue is that none of them came remotely close to proving your thesis.
Actually, most of them werenât even related in the slightest to the topic at hand.
Youâre giving us another example here. Joon and Vivica are different heroes, itâs a fact. I believe we can all agree on that.
Joon and Vivica are different heroes (fact), hence costumes are classic heroes (your thesis) is a preposterous proposition. Using this fact as an argument to prove your thesis is simply laughable.
You might as well say that costumes are classic heroes because sharks are fish (they are, itâs a fact as well). There is no correlation, let alone causation between those two things.
See how it works?
So what youâre telling us is that you have the necessary material, but didnât bother to use it?
Hereâs a better idea: click on those links, read carefully the text that appears on your screen, read it again, and read it some more.
Then you can provide them to us. Not that we need it.
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Itâs very doubtful that youâve even read whatâs in that link, but ok. Youâve had the time to Google and link a scholarly explanation of facts vs opinions, yet somehow youâve found a way to disco around linking where the Devs refer to Season 1 Costumes as simply Season 1 (like your title suggests). Itâs because there isnât a resource you can link to that validates your claim.
The escapades youâre performing and the contradictions that are dropping while youâre executing those dance moves speak for themselves. All youâve done is literally pull the âYes, butâŠâ while projecting it onto others.
Youâve got no factual basis for the issue at handâŠwhich is Season 1 Costumes are NOT Season 1 heroes. Then you turned that into a hero family issue in order to try to one up literally everyone in here and âwinâ the debateâŠall while no one was debating that at all.
You could have changed the title to state âSeason 1 Family of heroesâ and you would have been closer to the truth. But as it stands, youâre still wrong because no one refers to Season 1 Costumes as simply Season 1.
I know man, you may have gotten a bunch of thumbs up for your YouTube clips and having literally everyone here disagree with you stings. Itâll be ok, little guy. Cheers!
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Can we please stop with âYes, but?â I wouldnât want to puke, my drinking game is still on.
Add that to the fact that I have nausea when people bring up the one pseudo-philosophical concept they know over and over again, and it only makes matters worse.
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Apologies. It is Friday night and I shouldâve known better .
YouTube likes have a tendency to cultivate narcissism. Oh well. Can always at least laugh at itâŠa little bit.
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I get the sense that Youtube likes are not to blame here.
And come on, I just checked the channel due to this fascinating debate, and the videos have more exclamation points in their title than views.
I could perhaps understand if he were some kind of influencer, but heâs just some random youtuber.
And donât get me wrong, itâs perfectly fine. E&P is a pretty niche subject and views arenât a good indicator of a contentâs quality, nor subscribers a good indicator of a channelâs value.
Iâm just positing that a channel of this magnitude is unlikely to cause a major case of megalomania.
I must admit that I didnât laugh a little bit after reading this. 
I laughed a lot.
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Iâll take your word for it.
Hopefully the link would contain better approaches to formulating winning arguments and not the âYes, butâŠâ approach.
Crap! Sorry! Donât blow grits!
But yea, quite a snort inducing laugh at that lol.
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Donât forget that Lewena is Fast now. The contrast is ridiculous.
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Itâs a smidge off-topic over there
Yah tho, good one:
Looks like some lines needed to be drawn for the speed, thanks @Dyna49
Yeah wowâŠcanât wait to see whatâs next to keep the spenders upping their skills.
The damage is pretty much a wash, with the higher stats
Hope this helps,
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I generally find when one must result to personal insults it is evidence that they have nothing constructive to add to the discussion/debate. Also, personal attacks more often than not say much more about the poster than their intended target.
Either way, personal attacks are not a level of discourse to which I have any interest in entertaining. If that is oneâs level of interaction then I am grateful if they do not watch my videos. I am not interested in clicks or viewsâthatâs never been a goal for me. I would rather have a small number of engaged viewers that grasp the content than thousands of viewers that rely on name calling 
Also, I do really enjoy this irony: " I would recommend not to waste time on arguing for the meaningless topic." Thanks for that smile.
Good luck in the game and in life.
As for the topic at hand:
BMW 528i and BMW M5 ⊠one is more powerful and handles better, but they are both 5-Seriesâthat is from the manufacturer.
The costumes and regular heroes always have the same family bonusâThat is from the developers.
The costumes and regular heroes always are sorted by the same originâThat is from the developers.
I appreciate and understand that some have a different feeling, but feelings do not change facts.
Please, letâs draw and end to this thread as the discussion is not going anywhere.
Both âsidesâ have argued their positions, and Iâm seeing little convergence of understanding, only deeper entrenchment and resorting to ad hominems.
I suspect if both sides were to reflect on what it would take to change their position the answer would probably be similar for both: âa statistically significant survey of the player base which held a contrary positionâ.
Given that is not going to be achieved, it seems fruitless to continue this debate.
The only useful piece of information gleaned from this discussion is that there is some perceived ambiguity in the OPâs YouTube title, irrespective of which side is ârightâ.
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Seria mais justo que os herois lentos fosse para médios, ai eles teria mais jogabilidades. Com as temporadas e evetos novos estå compensado upar alguns herois epicos do que os lendårios do CT20.
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Even epic utility (including costumes!) becomes replaced by future legendary with the same skill + extra. If this thread were correctly titled, it could be revisited soon (if not today).
Tomorrow (and after) will be no different. And new S5 will eventuallyâŠget swallowed whole in the SE
The ones who truly benefit, are those who canât afford the new legendary. However⊠their pain is directly linear to the pace.
AgainâŠ
The OPâs harm, would deceive you that spending your cash for any of these pixels is a permanent investment.
It is notâŠ!
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Whatâs even funnier is the OP is using bad analogies to justify the mislead. All BMW 5 series can be purchased (summoned) from the same dealership (portal). That is 100% not the case for S1 Costumes. I guess being called out by literally everyone here for posting misleading info instead of everyone clapping/giving hearts is a âpersonal insultâ now.
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In his defense I have walked those shoes:
Over where there is yet another exploit.
I canât see the humor, rather find it sad:
You all need voices from those who cast the most⊠paper ballots
I would say you needed them a year or two ago.
So it probably doesnât matter much now.
I would actually agree with him that Costumes are the same as emblems, LB and troops.
If⊠SG dissolved the chamber, and allowed all costumes therein to be delivered like those other 3 MATERIALSâŠ
Via chests.
SG could forgo the offers where they sell all 3 of those MATERIALS, separately in bundles, butâŠ
thatâs unlikely
Until then⊠claiming that a singular card from a PORTAL, which is applicable to a single hero only, and produces ânew cardâ effects,
is the same as troopsâŠI canât call that reaching.
Itâs just wrong
You are right,
I agrre on many topics with Jekyll&Hyde, but despite SG gives out a lot of free costume keys, its not easy to obtain legendary Costumes without paying, so they are no âascension/devellopementâ material for heroes.
His argument with the family bonus applies to event snd HotM or seasonal costumes only. S1 heroes have no family bonus !
He tries to defend a lost case at all cost.
The next point is not aimed against @Pompitous, but at some other peoples.
The core of the problem is something different: He made content for free, you like it or agree to it or not. If not you can politely voice your concerns or stop looking his content. No need for this toxic hate. I do not think this hate is because of clickbait, I think because he is a big spender. I am f2p and I will not discuss why or why not, but I do not understand the hatred of some against so called âwhalesâ, we all have the right to play like we want, to spend or not to spend. Respect your fellow gamers, appreciate free content. And please take a civilized approach to critics giving and receiving it.
Happy gaming and stand united
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SG keeps the family bonuses the same for regular/costumes for S2, HOTMS, Seasonal Events, and Challenge Events. Clearly they include costumes as the same origin ⊠which is why they are sorted in the same origin in game.
An M3 is still a 3-series BMW. No, it is not available for free. Yes, it is hard to get and costs more.
I am using logic, reason, and evidence. I am merely responding to the comments madeânot sure how that is defending âat all cost?!â This is simple debate on message board about a game. As for it being a lost caseâclearly that is not the case.
100% agree and well said.