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Isn’t throwing it the same as losing?

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Hmm. Well TBH I didn’t even check our war score for that one, I just told the team that we weren’t participating and not to use any flags, and opted us out of wars after that. We scored a zero and nobody got any loot AFAIK. No idea whether or not it impacted our alliance’s war score. :man_shrugging:

A loss will, as I understand it, result in either a reduction or no change in war score.

The current war result will replace the war result from 20 wars ago (used to be 10). If you are replacing a win result from 20 wars ago with a loss then war score drops. If you are replacing a loss with a loss then no change.

Geez, if it goes back 20 wars… I’m thinking we probably won at least 13-14 of our last 20. Means that if we did get back into it, we’d still probably end up facing really strong teams.

Depends when you stopped. If you stopped before it changed from 10 to 20 (which was I believe not more than a few months ago) then you’ll probably start with either your last 10 (if it saves them) or zero.

Aah – searched and it was changed in Nov '19. 5 months ago.

Conversation has moved on, but I’d like to return to the previous discussion and thoughts on points distribution. I think I’ve managed to suss it out.


Left out names again, and truncated some of the data gathered as those are somewhat unnecessary for the specific thing we’re looking at.

The Points and Victory points are what the game designates. The aim is essentially to see how these figures are calculated with what data we have available to us.

Health designates the health of the characters. Specifically it’s the green bar above them which includes any percentage modification provided by troops.

Team health is the total health of the alliance.

Percentage of health contribution is the percentage the individual contributes to the alliance.

Share? is 1500 x Percentage of health contribution. This figure, when rounded up, does not match the total of Points and Victory points. Seeing this failed, I tried the final calculations.

1000 share? is 1000 x Percentage of health contribution.
500 share? is 500 x Percentage of health contribution

The final two columns are the 1000 share? and 500 share? figures rounded up.

Given all the above, the points of the individual team is percentage based depending on contribution to the overall alliance health.

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UPDATE! Checking out our war opponent, and I think it might happen again this war! Gonna be a different result though, cause we might try some strategery…maybe…yep. strategery. Don’t tell, but our plan is going to go like this…
No fails, all 1 shots, take out the 2 weakest, blah blah blah, then hope they fail alot!

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How do I move it? And how are wars calculated then, because this one is totally lopsided

Actually, war matchmaking uses the war score of each alliance. Both alliances have close to 70k war points, so only from the numbers it seems a pretty fair matchup.
Nevertheless, the other alliance might have had a few losses while your alliance won a few… Seems like you were just very unlucky this time. Wish you all the best and keep fighting!

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We’ve lost last 2 wars, idk looks like an awful set up to me, why don’t they just tell us to bend over??

I am really sorry for your matchup. Don’t give up right now, maybe you manage to surprise your opponents. :wink::crossed_fingers:

Nope!! Only about 8 of our member our strong enough to take our 4300 teams!! Really would like someone to take a look at this complete BS

If you have Line I can you a video lol!!

The only way War matchmaking will be fixed is if it starts costing them money.

#SpendZero

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These are our numbers from start of current war.

LW LF T RF RW Health P BP Points Points 1 Points 2
1357 1364 1526 1426 1027 6700 54 27 81 78 80
891 725 810 947 756 4129 33 17 50 58 50
1364 1282 1494 1408 1444 6992 56 28 84 81 84
1675 1188 1159 1476 1000 6498 52 26 78 77 78
1328 1446 1425 1323 1339 6861 55 28 83 80 83
1529 1573 1736 1681 1584 8103 65 33 98 90 98
1546 1296 1556 1503 1361 7262 58 29 87 83 87
1385 1332 1476 1370 1320 6883 55 28 83 80 83
1202 1155 1262 1099 1096 5814 47 24 71 71 69
1246 1457 1458 1463 1320 6944 56 28 84 80 83
1229 1323 1422 1210 1167 6351 51 26 77 76 77
1308 1426 1208 1200 1270 6412 52 26 78 76 77
1370 1452 1284 1322 1297 6725 54 27 81 79 81
1539 1425 1627 1334 1349 7274 59 30 89 83 87
1036 1135 1208 1202 1200 5781 47 24 71 71 69
1081 805 1466 958 704 5014 41 21 62 65 60
660 803 721 724 988 3896 32 16 48 56 47
1041 805 844 1231 836 4757 38 19 57 63 57
1332 1246 1501 1164 1226 6469 52 26 78 77 78
1143 1138 1401 1502 1302 6486 52 26 78 77 78
125351 1518 1501 1506

First 5 are health points of the 5 heroes for each team (LW LF T RF RW). Then the total for that team. Then the points allocated § and the bonus points (BP). Then total points for a 1-shot.

Points1 is points based on 500 split evenly and 1000 split based on health percentage. Points 2 is based on all split based on health percentage.

Points 2 comes out a lot closer but still a noticeable discrepancy. We have better than ten points more than both versions calculate out in total.

The health points are from the green bar above the hero, which factors in troops.

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Your forgot a column for how much your alliance has spent on the game. :smiley:

How did you calculate Points 2 specifically?

The second figures from my own post was:

(1000 x (percentage of health contribution)) + ( 500 x (percentage of health contribution))

From what I calculated from your data there was a two point discrepancy. Look at the row starting with 1081 (I tried to bold it but the formatting wouldn’t work). Both points value are one short using the way I calculated it.

LW LF T RF RW Health P BP Points Points 1 Points 2 Health verification Percentage contribution 1000 x % 500 x % 1000 rounded 500 rounded
1357 1364 1526 1426 1027 6700 54 27 81 78 80 6700 0.053449912645292 53.449912645292 26.724956322646 54 27
891 725 810 947 756 4129 33 17 50 58 50 4129 0.032939505867524 32.939505867524 16.469752933762 33 17
1364 1282 1494 1408 1444 6992 56 28 84 81 84 6992 0.055779371524759 55.7793715247585 27.8896857623792 56 28
1675 1188 1159 1476 1000 6498 52 26 78 77 78 6498 0.051838437667031 51.838437667031 25.9192188335155 52 26
1328 1446 1425 1323 1339 6861 55 28 83 80 83 6861 0.05473430606856 54.7343060685595 27.3671530342797 55 28
1529 1573 1736 1681 1584 8103 65 33 98 90 98 8103 0.064642483905194 64.6424839051942 32.3212419525971 65 33
1546 1296 1556 1503 1361 7262 58 29 87 83 87 7262 0.057933323228375 57.9333232283747 28.9666616141874 58 29
1385 1332 1476 1370 1320 6883 55 28 83 80 83 6883 0.05490981324441 54.9098132444097 27.4549066222048 55 28
1202 1155 1262 1099 1096 5814 47 24 71 71 69 5814 0.04638176001787 46.3817600178698 23.1908800089349 47 24
1246 1457 1458 1463 1320 6944 56 28 84 80 83 6944 0.055396446777449 55.3964467774489 27.6982233887245 56 28
1229 1323 1422 1210 1167 6351 51 26 77 76 77 6351 0.050665730628396 50.6657306283955 25.3328653141977 51 26
1308 1426 1208 1200 1270 6412 52 26 78 76 77 6412 0.051152364161435 51.1523641614347 25.5761820807173 52 26
1370 1452 1284 1322 1297 6725 54 27 81 79 81 6725 0.053649352617849 53.6493526178491 26.8246763089245 54 27
1539 1425 1627 1334 1349 7274 59 30 89 83 87 7274 0.058029054415202 58.0290544152021 29.0145272076011 59 30
1036 1135 1208 1202 1200 5781 47 24 71 71 69 5781 0.046118499254095 46.1184992540945 23.0592496270472 47 24
1081 805 1466 958 704 5014 41 21 62 65 60 5014 0.039999680896044 39.9996808960439 19.999840448022 40 20
660 803 721 724 988 3896 32 16 48 56 47 3896 0.031080725323292 31.0807253232922 15.5403626616461 32 16
1041 805 844 1231 836 4757 38 19 57 63 57 4757 0.037949437978157 37.9494379781573 18.9747189890787 38 19
1332 1246 1501 1164 1226 6469 52 26 78 77 78 6469 0.051607087298865 51.6070872988648 25.8035436494324 52 26
1143 1138 1401 1502 1302 6486 52 26 78 77 78 6486 0.051742706480204 51.7427064802036 25.8713532401018 52 26
125351 1009 509 1518 1501 1506 125351 1008 508

First time I see war like this one .

11 for 7 ? And 11 strong people they have 3900 to 4500 we have 2.9 , 3.1 , 3.7, 3.9 4.1 , 4.2 , 4,2 . Huge joke

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Seen mention of such mismatches in the other war matchmaking thread. That’s really unlucky. :slightly_frowning_face:

I can only assume that the system ran out of alliances to match resulting in something so lopsided. Hopefully it works out better for the next one.

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