Glad to hear that there was no positive feedback on the previous AL, as completely agree that paying for a hero I already bought is such poor form and a blatant cash grab…That said, as a suggestion, what does one think of exchanging one 5* for another in the same class? As an example, you could submit (a duplicate…) Kage and get either GM, Azlar or Obakan in return? That way there is still an element of chance for SG…In the larger classes, there is obviously more chance to get another hero that you potentially already have… I also see the cost as being the same amount of food to ascend a hero to the last level (ie 708k), but no gems…Appreciate any thoughts!
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Alchemy Lab is about transforming crafting or ascension materials. No one has seen any version of the Hero Academy whatsoever yet, so we don’t know what SG’s vision for it is. But I think, collectively, we are worried that it will look like the Alchemy Lab did on its first trip into beta.
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I see…i don’t have beta. Thanks for the quick response!
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Sounds good to me
What i thought a lot of us had in mind when this type of feature was talked about over a year ago
I guess it would be OK. I just don’t understand why one feature of the game cannot be implemented without the element of chance. Look, limit the options, fine. You can only change to a hero of the same element, or same class, or whatever, make it take a week or something, charge me a reasonable number of gems, whatever, but ultimately, just one time let me make a choice that’s best for my team. Just one ■■■■■■■■ feature. Please.
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I could see something like that working. I was thinking having it similar to leveling up a hero. You choose the one that you want to change out, giving you a guarentee that you wont get that one, then to ensure you don’t get another one that you don’t want you have to trade in two of that one. Continuing in that vein for a while, maybe for every third or fourth different hero that you add in, you have to add an extra of it. So if you trade in one 5*, and you want to ensure you don’t get another, you can add two of another 5*, then when you get to the 4th guy that you also don’t want, the number would increase to three, and so on… Since I am F2P/C2P (in 16 months I have only bought the Valentine’s day special), I try to come up with solutions that would help the F2P crowd, and I believe this would be good.
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All I gotta say is, if they gonna charge you for random loot(heros or ascension items) after I already got random loot, then I’ll just stick with the first random loot and not even bother with the second randomization.
Now if they want to charge me a bit and I get to choose what I’m getting, then that sounds like a fair trade to me. Especially if im trading away a good 5* HotM. I better get to pick what the eff im getting in return.
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Well said my friend .
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my personal opinion
i got *5 unused , which is i never asc like Khagan , Mook-ar etc
if i need to pay 300 Gem or 500Gem to Re-roll my unused *5 for another *5 , i will take that chance
why ? because it will be more worthy to pay 300 gem to get random guarantee *5 than pay 300-350 in Portal which is 99% is *3
and i am sure that many C2P will do the same
Not 100% true depending on how it’s setup
Right now with the 300 gems in events or seasonals you get a shot at special 5* heros
In atlantis you get a shot at special 5s, past hotm, and ascension chests
Basically you’re saying that 300 gems + heros for a portal that contains 5s from a portal you wouldn’t normally use is worth it
Believe a large % of the player base either has all the heros from the epic portal or at least have the ones they want
If I’m going to pay for summons or trade ins, it’s going to be at heros i dont have a daily shot at for free(in other words I’m not trading 5x drakes for 1x thorne)
I dont think gems should be involved at all but if it was more cost effective than new summons and had same/more benefits, then yea I’d probably still use it
But knowing SG since 2017, I’d say that’s unlikely the case
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i dont know how much you spent so far , but i did around 90-110 pull a month since Dec-18 and i am pretty much understood how bad the chance is. i ever experienced 90 pull without single *5 at March-19
thats why i said , i gladly spend 300 gem to re-roll my unused *5 for another random-guarantee-*5 , at least it give better chance or result than pure pull from portal.
well its just me
If you are saying you only would to pay to reroll a 5* if it only comes from the batch/event 5*'s characters then I agree 100%. example: Wonderland has Alice, Hatter, and Queen of Hearts. You get 2 Hatters and reroll 1 you can only get Alice or Queen of Hearts.
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pay 300 gems to turn Khagan into Mook-ar, then another 300 gems to get your Khagan back. how do you like that?
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You’re not seeing a problem with this business model if you work for SG. : )
What’d the game sell for again? Around $700 million?
The Casinos of the world weren’t built with their own money. Micro-transaction massive online games are no different.
A fool and his money are soon parted. There’s a sucker born every minute.
Sounds like you’re not one of them. Hope others connect the dots as you have, get the message, and govern their spending decisions with a bit more forethought.
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pull 300 gem and get *3 , then pull 10x to get another *3 x 10 , also if you get *5 and you also has possibilit to get another Khagan or Mook-ar , how do you like that ?
its a “chance” and “rng” , i could get Lianna from 300 gem re-roll and possible to get same “Khagan” as well. but at least its a guarantee *5 while portal only give you less than 1% for *5 and could get another Khagan as well , re-roll *5 for another *5 give better chance
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there is a number of unwanted heroes, even 5*, plus heroes you have already. so you are not gonna be happy with every reroll. so you pay 600 gems for a chance to end up what you started with. you may be fine with it, I am not. at least, at a portal, I ALWAYS get another hero - feeder, dupe, new, whatever. at this academy, you can simply end up with 600 gems gone.
well then i have no words for you if you better to spend thousand $$ to get junk than to re-roll guarantee *5 for 300 gem , just good luck for you lol. or maybe you didnt spend eh ?
personally i spent $300 without single *5 at Atlantis March-19 and my alliance mate spent $1000 to get GM / Tarlak at 2 last atlantis , but only get duplicate 1 Irsania , 2 Azlar , 1 Mork-ar and without any HOTM.
You keep repeating how you and your mate have spent a lot of money in pulls like it’s something to be proud about or like it somehow proves your point. No, it doesn’t. Alchemy Lab / Hero Academy would still be a ripoff if they keep the idea of charging gems for rerolling ascension mats or 5* heroes.
I hope SG changes it cuz based on the comments here almost everybody hates the idea of paying double.
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So how do you sell them back? I am confused, what is the hero academy? Perhaps there is more to this game than I realized?
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As I said in my first post in this thread, this is the place to look so you know what we’re talking about:
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