After a year of Empires & Puzzles

I started playing E&P one year ago today (actually, yesterday, as this post took longer than expected to write), so I thought I’d take the opportunity to do an inventory of sorts and see where I am. Perhaps it will be of interest to others to see how they compare or see where they might be after a year of play. It got a bit long, so I’ve hidden it in sections below. Feel free to skim or skip altogether. :grinning:

Context

How much do I play? It has varied a fair bit. The first few weeks, somewhat erratically until I ditched my zombie alliance and found a real home. The next six months, heavily (but not obsessively) using almost all world energy. Then I “quit” the game for a short time (I was still doing trials and rare quests, but that’s about all). After working out a better balance, I now lose a few hours of world energy a day and usually do one monster chest and one hero chest each day.

How much do I spend? I am sure SG has us all neatly categorized in terms of spending. I’d be in the second group, just above the hardcore F2P crowd. I bought a $25 Google Play gift card when I knew I was going to be playing a while and had found a great alliance, but the game was beginning to bog down in that gap between maxing your first 3* rainbow and getting TC20 up and running. I used it on a few months of VIP and some cheap deals. It was enough to get a pair of TC20s running and build my first 4* rainbow. They failed to convert me into a regular cheap spender though (group three, I assume) and I’ve been happily F2P since Christmas.

So if you are totally F2P you might lag a month or two behind. If you spend a bit more regularly, a month or two ahead. If you spend a lot then this won’t resemble your experience at all!


Heroes

Classic
4*: I have 21 of the 22 four star heroes. Still missing Hu Tao.
5*: 13 of the 20 five star heroes. (2xObakan, Quintus, 2xJustice, Leonidas, 2xVivica, Isarnia, Magni, 3xRichard, 4xElkanen, Horghall, Lianna, Azlar, Marjana.)

Season Two
I’ve done 42 total pulls (the bonus chest makes it easy to keep track), mostly with Atlantis coins.
4*: Ameonna, Danzaburo, Gadeirus, Gobbler.
5*: (none)
Very underwhelming.

Challenge Events
This is where most of my gems have gone. A couple of ten pulls in the VIP days plus a couple of pulls a month since.
4*: Sir Lancelot
5*: (none)
What can I say?

Seasonal
3*: Hisan, Rudolph
4*: Jabbar
5*: (none)
No comment.

HOTM
Zimkitha! Evelyn!

  • Wu Kong was the first non-3* out of my tc20.
  • First Richard and First Vivica came from gem pulls. Lianna from an EHT. The rest of the classic 5’s are from tc20.
  • Including duplicates, tc20 has produced 18 5* heroes in 240 trainings.
  • I had the gems for one pull during the Guardian event last November and walked away with my first two 5* heroes: Richard and Zimkitha. The following month my four EHTs during the Chrismas event got me Evelyn. Thus using up a lifetime of summoning luck.
  • Kiril saved my life. At least as far as this game goes. He was my first 4* hero. Over the next five months I got 25 more 4* heroes and a handful of 5* heroes, none of whom were healers. I really think I’d have quit in disgust without Kiril.

Mats and Leveling

I bought a couple of 3* mats from the Halloween and Christmas calendars and did a couple of those 500 gems for two 3* mat deals, but the vast majority of mats came from game play.

Mat Total Inventory Used Heroes
Damascus Blade 13 6 7
Tome of Tactics 10 3 7
Royal Tabard 15 9 6 Obakan
Poison Darts 14 8 6 Vivica
Farsight Telescope 17 5 12 Isarnia, Richard
Mysterious Tonic 13 1 12 Evelyn, Lianna
Mystic Rings 10 4 6 Zimkitha
Mat Total Inventory Used Heroes
Compass 59 29 30
Fine Gloves 38 8 30
Trap Tools 41 13 28 Quintus; Jabbar, Rigard, Sabina, Tibertus
Orb of Magic 39 11 28 Justice, Leonidas; Chao, Li Xiu, Wu Kong
Warm Cape 40 8 32 Boril, Grimm, Kiril, Sonya
Sturdy Shield 31 3 28 Caedmon, Gadeirus, Little John
Hidden Blade 36 0 36 Marjana; Boldtusk, Colen, Gormek, Kelile, Scarlett, Sir Lancelot
  • Enough with the compasses already.
  • Plus 24 maxed 3*. There were a couple more but Vivica needed a snack and there were so many Banes…
  • Up next:
    • Purple: Finish Rigard. Cyprian’s last ascension. Ameonna perhaps. Somewhere in there I’ll either collect enough tabards that I may as well ascend Quintus… or I’ll get a better option.
    • Yellow: Decide between Justice and Leonidas. Or ascend Danzaburo and stall some more.
    • Blue: Magni.
    • Green: Continue leveling random 3* heroes until the RNG stops screwing around and gives me some sturdy shields. Elkanen, Melendor, Kashhrek, Horghall and Skittleskull are all waiting. Add Gobbler to the waiting list if I get sufficiently bored.
    • Red: Finish Lancelot. Pray for hidden blades and rings for Marjana. Duplicate Boldtusk.
  • Trivia: my first unfarmable mat was a Damascus Blade from Mystic Vision. Had no idea what it was for: none of my 2*'s could use it.

Emblems

I’ve completed all levels of all trials since the beginning. The hardest was the first Trials of Mysticism, where Kiril staggered into the boss wave, having lost his four 3* companions, and immediately let loose the full arsenal. The easiest, perhaps the recent Trials of Serenity with Evelyn, Lianna, Richard, Justice and Tiburtus. Healing be damned. The boss wave took two turns and everyone strolled away with well over 1000 hit points.

Class Total Inventory Used Heroes
Barbarian 453 58 395 Grimm+18
Cleric 447 52 395 Viviva+7
Druid 471 76 395 Caedmon+18
Fighter 519 14 505 Colen+20
Monk 379 14 365 Wu Kong+16
Paladin 489 94 395 Richard+7
Ranger 438 43 395 Tiburtus+18
Rogue 520 15 505 Kelile+20
Sorcerer 527 22 505 Sabina+20
Wizard 421 26 395 Kiril+18
  • I also have 4 reset tokens: the free one, two from war chests and one from a Raid Tournament.
  • Most emblem recipients have reached decision points. For the 4*'s, are those last couple of levels worthwhile for the particular hero, and who to work on next? For the 5*'s, stop at +7 or keep going over those expensive hurdles at levels 8 and 10?
  • The +20 4*'s are pretty close in strength to their untalented classic 5* counterparts: Colen actually has higher attack and defense than Azlar, but is short over 100 health. The same is true for Sabina and Vivica. With a 4* mana troop at level 11 both Colen and Sabina get their mana charged with one less tile. Of course you’ve got to consider the specials as well…

Troops

All 4* troops are from troop tokens. I’ve all the 3* troops I’ll ever need by now.

Color Crit Mana
Purple 1 2
Yellow 0 1
Blue 0 1
Green 1 0
Red 2 3
  • My first five 4* troops formed a rainbow. Things have been less uniform since then.
  • I have one of each up to level 11 or 12.

Suggestions
  • You’ve got to come to terms with the slow pace of the game. It’s not a game one binges on for a month or three and then moves on.
  • VIP can speed up the early building stages so you don’t end up with an army of fifty maxed 3*'s before you get TC20 going.
  • Set a budget (be it monthly or total) and stick to it. I found using a gift card effective. If Google doesn’t have my credit card info, I can’t impulse buy as easily.
  • I’ve seen a number of people who’ve clearly spent some significant money early on to get some very nice heroes. Just be aware that you’re going to have to level and ascend those heroes, which is either going to take a lot of time or a lot of money. Or both.
  • Let the slow pace of the game work for you. I’ve found that my hero acquisition rate, leveling ability and even mat availability actually balance surprisingly well. It isn’t really necessary to use every last drop of world energy or fill as many chests as possible. This was my realization when I took a break after six months: the game doesn’t have to take over your life. Just my personal experience.

Opinions
  • I’ve tried (and probably failed) to keep the preceding reasonably neutral, beyond that fact that I’m still playing after a year, which means I like the game. Now for the opinions.
  • Some of the older content in the game could really use an update: some new and more challenging quests, perhaps a hard version of season one, etc. Things that could be done pretty easily and would add more content to the game.
  • The farming aspect of the game feels pretty badly broken to me. It is most profitable to play the easiest and most boring aspects of the game over and over (and over). At this stage, this really isn’t fixable though.
  • Season two was nice. Love the Atlantis Coins and associated free summons for progressing. It started dragging on though. 270 similar levels of very slowly increasing difficulty. Except for the last few provinces in hard mode, I did it all with a 4* rainbow. I think there is room for more variety and for things to get much more difficult and challenging.
  • I enjoy the class trials a lot. Working on different heroes to fill in weaknesses is good. The emblems are still a bit scarce, but starting with low amounts and adding more through things like Mystic Vision makes sense. Keep adding more!
  • The raid tournament really should have been great. But that first tournament was just embarrassing. I’m programmer enough to know complex things generally don’t work perfectly the first time, but those early versions should never have seen the light of day. Not to mention the loot debacle. Now it feels like they’ve thrown up their hands and given up. Decided it is never going to be a money maker, cut their losses and the loot, and moved on.
  • The new buildings seem rather pointless. It started out sounding exciting in the sneak preview – Alchemy Lab and Hero Academy. I was ready to spend a bit more money for VIP again for that second builder. The Alchemy Lab is looking awful; bad enough that I’m not sure I’m even going to bother building one. And I’ve lost hope on the Hero Academy. The unannounced Hunter’s Lodge and harpoons have actually turned into the most interesting thing. The rest is just filler to slow down the pace.
  • I’m withholding judgement on the costumes. It is still quite early and there is some potential there.
  • The revised Challenge Events sound great. Previously I haven’t made any real attempt to compete as I have no realistic shot. I just plod through (and a lot of it can be autoplayed) to get my completion rewards. Expanding the loot tiers means I’ll actually try playing the events as intended.
  • Final thought: It is NOT necessary that every single aspect of the game directly earns money. SG seems a bit obsessed with monetizing every last thing. Just keeping the existing players interested and not quitting is a source of income. Just not as easy to quantify for the bosses.

So where can you be in a year or so?

  • A good selection of maxed 4* heroes.
  • At least one 5* rainbow, possibly getting close to two.
  • Be able to finish all class trials, rare quests and events without too much difficulty.
  • Be able to raid into the top 100 without too much trouble, but those top spots will likely be out of reach unless you get an amazingly lucky series of boards.
  • Stay in the diamond arena, except for those occasions when the Icarus Effect gets you bombed back into the Platinum Age.
  • Have about 30 maxed 4* heroes (or 3.70 or better 5’s) for wars.

PS. Do I get an EHT or a gem or something on my anniversary? Rhetorical question. :rofl:

I’m done. Sorry for writing a book. Is there a ridiculously long post thread?

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I’ll post my 1 Yr results in a couple days, for comparison. Very interesting how similar we are, although your tc20 results have totally gazumped mine :wink:

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Congrats on your 1 year @myopia!!
Well thought out and written, yes I read the entire thing, I found it interesting. I also agree with your thoughts overall. Good Luck in the future, hopefully SG will listen to you.

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Great precis of your first year. Well done.

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is there a way to check when u started to play or do you simply remember the date?

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Nicely written! Congrats!

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Not sure if this works on iPhone too, but on Android, the way I could figure out the date exactly, was by looking at the date I got the “Complete tutorial” achievement - assuming you did this on the first day of play, which seems like it would normally be the case.

So on Android at least, you can find this in Options in the bottom left corner, just left of the sign in/sign out button for Google Play Games. It is interesting that these are the same accomplishments you can see in Play Games, but in there it does not seem to show the date.

Interestingly I first looked for this also when I wrote a post about looking back at my one year anniversary of play… which in 2 days will be 1 year ago. @myopia seems like you did quite well in one year, I would say… I’m at work and I haven’t had time to read your whole post yet in detail, but I will do that later.

Maybe I should do a 2 year write up in 2 days then… one thing I do remember that for me, I was sort of slow getting 5* in the beginning, and that accelerated a lot after the 1 year mark (spoiler alert, the vast majority from TC20 as I’ve been very much C2P). Will be interesting to compare then to now.

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thx for that. looks like my anniversary was 7 days ago :slight_smile:

Is that progress playing for free or paying?

Literally in the 3rd paragraph…

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Fantastic overview.

As a P2P player it is still great to use this as a measuring stick.

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You can go to menu settings … and check achievments here


You finish the tuturial in the first day i think its the best way to know!

I started at 1 february 2018!

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As @ChoppedLiver said but i rushed before read it down!

Awesome read! Been in my alliance for 413 days first and only joined a day or so after I starting playing. (MAGICAL)
I have always felt like it is controlled. When they started the raid tournament it show me that it is. Win 3 in a row then a lower team beats me. Stack colors and 1 out of 100 the board will be in your favor. Many times I will only have three of the color I stacked. Plus I never have made a whole RT without spending 75 gems to continue.
The ascension items never happen . I’ll end with royal freaking tabards. 5 months to get 1 ridiculously stupid

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Only for Android.

We can see the exact date from…
Settings > iTunes & App Store: Apple ID: View Apple ID > Purchase History
– tap “Last 90 Days” to expand view to include previous years.

And I though I was start at March, but I’m wrong, because I trace from C2P (1st transaction 23 March 2019 - VIP Pass month).


I start at 12 Feb 2019.

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Thank you… That helped.

I installed the game tomorrow 1 year ago :slight_smile:
But I know I did not play until november / december. I remember thinking of having Santa or Rudolph in my team would be uncool, because they are “christmas only” heroes and they don’t fit for the rest of the year :smiley:

So I will take a random date in november as my “official” start :slight_smile:

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This is a very nice post and as an F2P, I can totally relate to your post. Some of rhose advices on taking the slow progress to your advantage are on point. I am sure at the 1 yr mark, my hero acquisition and mats inventory will look very similar to yours. Well, hope you keep on playing for another wonderful year and have great success. :slight_smile:

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I always enjoy reading these. I did one of my own when I hit 1 year. I’m 100% F2P, but even still you’re leaps and bounds ahead of me, you should count yourself fairly lucky. I’m almost at a year and a half at this point and I STILL don’t have a blue 5*. I’ve been running two TC20s non-stop for almost a full year now and no blues (and only 13 5*s total).

Similarly my luck with non-classic heroes is atrocious. Danzaburo is my only Atlantis 4 or 5* and Anzogh is my only HoTM. I’ve never gotten an event hero. So pretty much my entire roster is all classic heroes, it sucks.

At the 1 year mark my luck with troops was even worse, I had only gotten TWO 4* troops in a full year of playing! Thankfully my luck in that department has gotten better and I’ve gotten another three in the last few months, but I’m still missing a yellow.

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Nice and motivated post for a 1 year play; I don’t think everyone has the luck to have such a bunch of good heros. I’m playing 10 months now in a very active way. I have 2x TC 20 running non-stop and just received my first 5* hero after getting 57X 3* and 2x4*. In total I have only 6x5* at level 44. But still motivated to play the game. I know it is a lottery, and luck can’t be bought.

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Have been playing multiple times a day started june of 18 and paying but only have 3-5* and 15-4* lvl up guess I’m not spending enough