Aethers and Mats Offers - February 2022 (and beyond?)


Credit to @Taiglin

Please be mindful of summon odds.

Date: 1-3 August 2022
Offer: Valhalla Forever
Price: Varies

D1 S$44.98 / US$29.99

Gems = 3000
1000 coins = 3500 gems
10 WE Flasks = 1000 gems
Value in gems = 7500 => $107.78 from Shop
Discount 58%

Excluding the WE flasks, Discount is 52% for Gems & Coins.


UPDATED D1 Offer

Date: 24 October 2022
Offer: Valhalla D1 (Monster Lure offer)
Price: S$10.98 /US$6.99

WE Flask = 100 gems => $0.72 @ 50% discount
Loot Tix 100x @ S$0.07 => $7.00
VF Gnome Lure = S$3.26

Max gnomes 3 days = 75
Price per gnome for convenience = S$0.043

Additional gnomes 3 days = 30
Price per additional gnome = S$0.109

D2 S$5.98 / US$3.99

300 coins = 1050 gems
2 WE flasks = 200 gems
Value in gems = 1250 => $17.96 from Shop
Discount 67%

Excluding the flasks, Discount is 60% for those 300 coins.

D3 S$2.98 / US$1.99

This offer comes with 25 pesky coins. 4 in stock = 100 coins = 1 summon.

Analysed as a 4x purchase:

Gems = 1600
Coins 100x = 350 gems
Value in gems = 1950 => $28.02 from Shop
Price for 4x of this offer = $11.92
Discount 57%

UPDATE: 30 August 2022

New S3 offer! Bestest offer yet if player only wants coins.

Date: 30 August 2022
Offer: Feel the Might (Elradir) - S3 coins
Price: S$21.98 / US$14.99

This is the latest offer for S3, in response to players’ comments on scarcity of coins from gnomes in VF. Instead of increasing the odds of getting gnomes or increasing coin drop, Zynga released this offer:

S3 1500 coins = 15 summons = 5250 gems
=> $75.45 from Shop
Discount 71%

Price per summon = S$1.465 / US$0.999

Compared to Valhalla Offers:
Excluding those WE flasks:
D1 = S$2.25 / US$1.50
D2 = S$1.99 / US$1.33

#valhallaoffers
#feelthepowerelradir
#feelthepowervalhalla
#valhallamonsterlure

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Credit to @mrchief for sourcing this offer for newbies! Or maybe it’s for returning warriors.

Offer: Back From The Dead
Price : S$11.98 / US$7.99

Gems = 1900
3 EHT = 900 gems
3 Flasks = 300 gems
Value in gems = 3100 => $44.55 from Shop
Discount 73%

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73% is great but below my expectations. I think they have offered more in the past for these kind of deals

Date: 1 August 2022
Offer: Gem Extravaganza (Lemur)
Price: S$2.98 / US$1.99

300 gems 4x = 1200 gems = $11.92 for 4 offers

Unlocks the Mystery offer:

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(Currency is USD)
Singapore Dollar Equivalent = $11.99

Total gems for all 5 purchases = 2800
Price paid for all 5 purchases = $23.91
Shop price for 2800 gems = $40.24
Discount 41%

Date: 2 August 2022
Offer: Stardust
Price: S$2.98 / US$1.99

Gems = 200
ETT = 200 gems
3 Tornadoes = 225 gems
3 Super Mana Potions = 150 gems
Value in Gems = 775 => $11.14 from Shop
Discount 73%

Excluding the battle items, Discount is 48%.

Date: 8 to 10 August 2022
Offer: Tavern of Legends Event
Price: Varies

D1 Legends’ Prime Offer S$4.48 /US$2.99
Max 5 purchases

Gems = 300
100 coins = 300 gems
Value in Gems = 600 => $8.62 from Shop
Discount 48%

D3 S$44.98 / US$29.99

3000 coins = 30 summons = 9000 gems
Value in gems = 9000 => $129.34 from Shop
Discount 65% before adding in WE flasks
10 WE flasks = 1000 gems
Adjusted value in gems = 10,000 = $143.71 from Shop
Adjusted Discount 69%

Combined both D1 and D2
Buy all offers :
D1 = $22.40
D2 = $44.98
Both days = $67.38

Gems = 1500
3500 coins = 10,500 gems
10 WE Flasks = 1000 gems
Value in gems = 13,000 => $186.82 from Shop
Discount 64%

Date: 9 August 2022
Offer: Feel The Might (Elradir)
Price: S$14.98 / US$9.99

Ham 1.5M = $1.611
Master Trainers 3* 3x @$1.594 = $4.782
Price for these 2 items = $6.393
Price for 700 ToL Coins = $8.59
Value in gems for 700 ToL Coins = 2100 gems =>$30.18 from Shop
Discount 72%

If it’s just 700 ToL coins, ignoring Ham and Trainers, Discount is 50%. Still a tad cheaper than ToL Event Offer D1, if gems are not a priority.

#feelthemightelradir
#feelthemightlegends

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Love the discount breakdown with and without the fortune cookies! I’m tempted, are you?

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I was for a bit cos those trainers would come in handy. Then Roses popped back in. T5 offer is better for Master Trainers. So I will skip this Mighty Elradir offer.

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Yeah, price wise

2x FTM: 6x 3* Master trainer = 19800 combined XP for $16 (USD) (plus 14 summons)
3x T5 CoR: 3x 3*, 6x 2*, 3x 1* Master trainers = 33,660 combined XP for $15 (USD) (plus 9 summons and 2500 gems)

Unless you’re chasing event heroes, CoR is much better value

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That roses offer was not even two weeks ago. Challenge Festival II milking is strong. But I’ll probably give in and take tier 4 again …

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Yes, it’s odd that it returned so soon. Official reply will be : working as intended.

Date: 14 August 2022
Offer: Spooky Forest Fun
Price: Varies

T1 S$6.98 / US$4.99

Gems = 600
EHT = 300 gems
Turtle Banners 5x = 50 gems
Value in Gems = 950 => $13.65 from Shop
Discount 49%

Excluding the banners, Discount is 46%.

T2 S$28.98 / US$19.99

3AM 3x = $4.50
Gem & Gem Equivalents = $24.48

Gems = 2300
EHT = 300 gems
Titan flask = 100 gems
Turtle Banner 5x = 50 gems
Dragon Banner 5x = 115 gems
Value in Gems = 3065 => $44.05 from Shop
Discount 34%

Excluding the weapons and flasks, Discount is 28%.

T3 S$148.9& / US$99.99

EL 4AM 2x = $14.00
3AM 4x = $6.00
Gem & Gem Equivalents = $128.98

Gems = 11000
EHT 3x = 900 gems
ETT 3x = 600 gems
Flasks 5x = 500 gems
Dragon Banners 10x = 230 gems
Timestop 5x = 300 gems
Value in Gems = 13,530 => $194.44 from Shop
Discount 34%

Excluding the weapons and flasks, Discount is 31%.

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Date: 15 August 2022
Offer: Mythic Battle Bundle
Price: S$6.98 / US$4.99

Gems = 500
5 Titan Banners = 500 gems
5 Scrolls of Alteration = 1500 gems
5 Hurricanes = 1000 gems
Value in Gems = 3500 => $50.30 from Shop
Discount 86%
(Expanded to 4 decimal points: 86.1233%)

Assuming a full 30/30 alliance and everyone buys 1x of this offer, Player receives additional:

29 Titan Banners = 2900 gems
29 Scrolls of Alteration = 8700 gems
29 Hurricanes = 7250 gems
Value in Gems = 18850 gems => $270.89

Adjusted value to the Player:
In gems = 22350 => $321.19 from Shop
Adjusted Discount 98%
(Expanded to 4 decimal points: 97.8268%)

For alliances that are not 30/30, every 1 player less =
1 less Titan Banner = 100 gems less
1 less Scroll of Alteration = 300 gems less
1 less Hurricane = 250 gems less
Reduction in value of gems = 650 gems less
=> $9.341 less
Discount reduces by 0.065%

#mythicbattlebundle

:eyes: Here I thought this would be one of the shittiest offers!

It’s one of the best offers for MT if you are in a 30/30 alliance and everyone purchases that offer at least once.

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Shouldn’t this be 100 gems less?

Also this can’t be right, because it implies that a 1/1 alliance gets a 97.51% discount on the items, when they don’t get anything from alliance-mates. Should it be ~3.4% (1/29) less per missing member? Or ~3.37% (97.8/29)?

The % discounts also assumes you value these items equal to SG’s assigned shop value. I personally don’t value Titan Banners at 100 gems each, as it’s only a 20% increase over dragon banner, of which I have over 400, plus I normally bring an attack buffer who gives +48% for most colors. Nor do I value Hurricanes at 250 gems each when 40 of them come as a reward from Valor Pass every second (or third?) month.

I hear ya and I agree and disagree with you at the same time, if it makes sense. I think I’ve had the same argument with someone else on this thread or the other, where we spoke about how the “perceived value” may differ from player to player.

Most of the times, @BlackZed analysis also shows the discount w/o battle/crafting items too and sometimes I use them as an indicator.

In the end, we all have various factors that go into making something valuable or not. Unfortunately, that also means that it is very hard to assign a realistic value on these that will suit everyone. So, we stick to a common baseline. That way, each player can evaluate according to their own strengths, stockpiles, needs and style. As long as we all understand that I think this is fine.

None of this is real, and once hit the buy button, your money stops being real too :grin: Take it with grain of salt, and to each his/her/their own, eh? :beers:

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Thanks for picking up the error. I have edited my post.

The incremental discount from items gifted from an alliance mate is based on a 30/30 alliance.

If it’s a 1/1 alliance, it’s just the base discount: 86%.

Value for anything in RL or Game is always from the Beholder’s perspective, and therefore subjective.

My calculations are based on as objective as possible bases. My readers ultimately decide for themselves whether an offer is good value for them.

In your context, Titan banners are not worth your money. That’s fair enough. Don’t buy the offer then.

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The “Feel The Power” Senan offer has been updated to a 2 Tier offer fronted by Elradir:

Date: 19 August 2022
Offer: Feel The Power! (Elradir)
Price: Varies

Tier 1 S$44.98 / US$29.99

15m Ham = $16.11
S4 Coins & Flasks => $28.87

Valued in gems :
2000 S4 Coins = 7000 gems
10 WE Flasks = 1000 gems
Value in Gems = 8000 => $114.97 from Shop
Discount 75%

If player is only interested in summon coins, it will be S$2.25 / US$1.50 per summon. This offer is comparable to the ToU D1 $44.98 offer, except for the absence of gems, which is replaced with Ham.

Tier 2 S$6.98 / US$4.99

Master Trainers 1* 5x = 6600XP
Master Trainers 2* 5x = 9900XP
Master Trainers 3* 1x = 3300XP
Value in XP = 19800
Price per 1000XP = $0.3525

This is the lowest price per 1000XP to date.
Extrapolating to each master trainer tier :
1* 1320XP = $0.4653
2* 1980XP = $0.69795
3* 3300XP = $1.16325
4* 6600XP = $2.3265

Previous prices for 1000XP:
18 June 2022 offer = $0.483
22 July 2022 offer = $0.3917

This downward trend reduces the discount in regular offers featuring Master Trainers.

#feelthepower
#feelthepowerelradir
#feelthepowerS4

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