I had been wondering about this a long time. Everybody pops up with what is now a cliche about 4* heroes at 4^70 almost always being better than 5*s at 3^70. Recently, though, Paulon mentioned how good his 3^70 Joon was.
Does anyone want to share FROM EXPERIENCE how good a 5* was at 3^70.
For the most part when you compare the stats between 4* 4/70 and a 5* 3/70, the 4* would typically have better stats. But it doesn’t necessarily mean the 5* isn’t viable, there may be cases where you may have to consider their special since they may still out perform the 4* hero. It’s depends on what you have, compare their stats and plan out accordingly.
I partnered my 3/70 Joon with a fully ascended Jackal for a good one-two punch. I never really played with him solo, so YMMV if you do.
By contrast, I found Lianna at 3/70 to be significantly less effective than Caedmon at 4/70, but I also never really had an optimal partner for her, and just used her solo.
I have panther at 3.56 and Richard at 3.60 (not quite 3.70 but I feel close enough to be relevant in this thread)
I really rate both. Panther makes tibs lethal and Richard special hits pretty decent and the attack debuff is not the best effect but still lethal.
I run these two most of the time over maxed fours I have (melendor, wu, colen) partly because their specials do different things and then also because neither seem overly fragile even though they aren’t on max tier. Most of the time when people are saying 3.70 isnt very good, the biggest grievance is generally that they’re squishy, but I’m not finding it with these two heroes.
I raid around 2100 -2300 cups with team power 3430 (not that that matters at all - just explaining my situation and where I’m coming from). I feel like to get up to diamond, a little more firepower and durability would be useful, but for my roster, they’re the better offensive options for me
I did, and I gave a general response between the two. If you really need a story to explain what I responded with then here you go… I’ve used Ares at 3/70 as tank even though I had a Rigard at 4/70. Rigard overall had better defense and health, and normally people would advice placing the higher defense hero as tank, but Ares’ supporting capability was still vastly superior towards the heroes on his left and right. Ares managed not only to heal them, but gave my Musashi the extra power and stamina which made him viable in my team. Ares served his role better than what Rigard would have done even at 3/70.
I haven’t had so many 5* heroes at 3/70 for long that I’d speak from general experience rather than just experience with specific heroes, but a rule of thumb I picked up reading the forums is that a 5* at 3/70 is usually less effective than a 4* at 4/70.
My limited observation is that the exceptions I’ve seen tend to have an effect in their special which isn’t dependant on their character level. Alberich’s res power, and Zeline’s dispel are examples.
By that reasoning, I’d not be surprised to find Magni, Vivica, and Gregorion of the heroes I have to also fall into that category, but I haven’t leveled any of those enough to find out for sure.
My experience with Gravemaker is that despite not falling into the above logic progression, he’s a lean mean burning machine and scary good even at 3/70. He’s just even scarier and meaner at 4/80 when I face him in raids.
The other two heroes I have leveled that far which I find not all that useful at 3/70 are Obakun and Perseus, but then again they don’t exactly overwhelm me when raiding against them at 4/80 either.
My Vivica is still at 3.70 and she is doing pretty good… +% healer’s will berform good even at lower levels
Even my Joon were good at 3.70, like also Lianna, but when reaching level 4.80 with one sniper you’ll not be truly satisfied anymore with unveleled damaging heroes… even if in the case I’d find another sniper I’ll surely bring him to 3.70 for alliance wars.
Utility heroes will be better than snipers at low level as their strong part is the effect and not the damage.
She rocked my world at 3/70, and even before that, but I was just starting out. When I didn’t have the team power to easily complete rare quests/events, doing the mob levels slowly and ghosting yellows to preload three minions (~450hp of meat shields) in front of each hero before I hit the boss level was a huge boost!
Delilah’s also had some glorious moments in a raid when she was my last hero standing, the opponent only had one or two still standing, and I was able to ghost tiles, heal, and build up minions to pinprick the last hero to death!
I’ve got Alasie at 3/63, and she hits hard. The -mana gen is a nice touch, but not big enough to be a game changer. (With three telescopes, I hope so, she’s gonna be 3/70 for a while!) I’ve got her on my defense team over 4* heroes.
Gravemaker is only 3/35, and he’s useful, 'tho I’m not sure he’s a top 3/70 5*
Gregorion is way to young for me to speak to, but at 2/53, he doesn’t give off the kinda lame/useless feel that most 2/60’s do.
NOT so impressive at 3/70: Obakan. I only gave him gloves because I really needed a second purple hitter, any hitter. I probably would have ascended Tiburtus-2 before him if I had pulled a second Tiburtus…